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"the only real apocalypse is the personal one, and millenarianism.. is a delusion of consequentiality, produced by the panicked desire to see one’s own generation as the significant one." (Echo's Answer)

Former Full Preterists: Recanting Full Preterism: Abauzit  Townley  Desprez - "(Full) Preterism has a long history of adherents who recanted. Here the works of three prominent men who embraced preterist or hyperpreterist views, but later recanted, are examined" (Abauzit, Townley, Desprez)


"This is in reference to my inquiry about Colonel H. Speed Wilson's $10,000 Rapture challenge. I finally tracked him down through his association with the Lake Hamilton Bible Camp and from this latest email I received it appears that the Colonel will acquiesce to remit the $10,000 posted to anyone who could prove the the Rapture of the Church is supported by Scripture, I proved this and I'm glad to say that as to him as well as my self it is all about the truth, furthermore, the Preterist position on the Book of Revelations is the premise of educated fools. There is knowledge to be learned on that website but it is of an historical nature and as far as a spiritual nature it is bone without enough meat on it to make a sick bird a bowl of soup." Sincerely, Donald LeFlore

1/14/12:

  • U.S. Warns Israel on Strike U.S. defense leaders are increasingly concerned that Israel is preparing to take military action against Iran, over U.S. objections, and have stepped up contingency planning to safeguard U.S. facilities in the region in case of a conflict.

1/12/12:

  • Poll Finds 43 Percent Of People Believe God Helps Tebow Win Related to Dominion Theology - Is God Helping His Church Transform Earth?

    • ‎"emails made the rounds among Orthodox Jews connecting Mr. Tebow's heavenly achievement to their own tradition: Since Hebrew scans from right to left, the passing number he achieved should have read 613, not 316—and 613, an important figure in Judaism, marks the precise number of commandments in the Torah."  (source)

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1/6/12:

  • A Brief Critique of Dispensationalism - The following is a brief, yet potent, argument against the errors of the Eschatological doctrine commonly known as Dispensationalism by Richard Jones.

1/3/12:

  • Free Online PDF Book by Full Preterist Joe Michael Vincent II - The Millennium: Past, Present or Future? "Check out my new book on “The Millennium,” Past, Present, or Future? Simply click on the image on the right to open the PDF document and begin reading. I make a Biblical defense for the 40 Year transition period (AD30-AD70) in fulfillment of the Millennial period. "

1/2/12:

"With the planned DVD release of my interview with Dr. Talbot in February, and the upcoming debate with Joel McDurmon and Don Preston, we can add my planned book on refuting Full Preterism from the inside out. I have decided to write “what I know” of the nine years I spent as a premiered Full Preterist speaker and author. It will be a tour de force primer on how to defeat Full Preterism in your local communities and online." http://thereignofchrist.com/new-year/

 


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12/21/11:

  • Mexico Mayan region launches apocalypse countdown While some doomsday theorists may suggest putting together survival kits, people in southeastern Mexico, the heart of Maya territory, plan to throw a yearlong celebration. And to make a profit while they party.

12/18/11:

  • AP: Religious Jews still try to segregate Israel buses Associated Press: Religious Jews still try to segregate Israel buses "Israel's political leaders and chief rabbis on Sunday condemned persistent efforts by ultra-Orthodox Jewish men to shunt Israeli women to the back of public buses, a year after the country's Supreme Court outlawed the practice."

12/13/11:

12/11/11:

  •  The UnPreterist: Dee Dee Warren Attacks James White "Dee Dee Warren, owner of the blog PreteristBlog who has promoted hyperpreterist compromiser Kenneth Talbot is now attacking James White. White has been consistent in opposing hyperpreterism, unlike Talbot who actually was using a hyperpret to help develop student materials "

12/7/11:

12/6/11:

  • Sam Frost: New Heavens/New Earth "Even the Full Preterist must realize this because he/she too spiritualizes these passages. You don’t really think that we are going to live hundreds of years old do you? What is Isaiah expressing here? Eternal life? Yes. The Eternal State realized in a new heaven and a new earth, recreated to reflect and go way, way beyond the original Edenic setting before the sin that brought accursedness, death and sinners in the world (Romans 5.12-ff)."

  • The Destruction of Jerusalem and the End of the World Episode #0033: Andrew Connally discusses the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the world. 0033 - The Destruction of Jerusalem and the End of the World

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11/20/11:

  • Lawsuit: Man fired for not wearing "666" sticker - CBS News "But he grew nervous in early 2009 as the number of accident-free days crept into the 600s. When the day came on March 12, 2009, Hyatt sought a manager to discuss his request. He said he was told that his beliefs were "ridiculous" and that he should wear the sticker or serve a three-day suspension."

11/16/11:

Britain's Queen Elizabeth II attends a service marking the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible at Westminster Abbey, London, Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2011. "Ancient copies of the King James bible are carried in a procession to the alter during a service marking the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible at Westminster Abbey, London, Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2011. The first edition of the King James Bible was published in 1611."

11/15/11:

  • Video: Don Preston’s Deistic Perceptions "I decided to do an audio and video version of my article, The Machinery of the Full Preterist World. The points i made in this article have been avoided like the plague from Don Preston’s “Reformed” hyperpreterist supporters."
  • A Biblical and Historical Perspective on Earthquakes | American Vision For decades now, modern-day prophecy writers have been claiming that the increase and severity of earthquakes are sure indicators that we’re living in the “last days” and the “rapture” is near. It happened when an earthquake hit Haiti January 12, 2010.

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11/12/11:

  • Mike Loomis - Challenging Resurrection View of Total Fulfillment in AD70 "The Apostle Paul spoke of the resurrection as something that was past, present, and future from his perspective. And to deny certain aspects of it, past, present, or future is to deny even Christ's resurrection, resulting in the shipwrecking of some peoples faith. See 1 Corinthians 15, 1 Timothy 1:18-20 & 2 Timothy 2:14-18."

11/9/11: Daniel's 70 Weeks -- Rightly Dividing "The crucifixion and the destruction of the Temple did occur after the 69 weeks of years ended in 32 AD. Jesus was cut off, but the destruction of the Temple would come later just as Jesus foretold. Daniel 9:26 is fulfilled after the 69th week with the 70th week still future. This is the plain reading without doing any mental gymnastics or new math. Below is the passage diagrammed" (well done chart by Dispy Daniel Matson)

11/7/11: Preterist Questions and Difficulties - Puritan Board

11/4/11:

  • Essays towards a right interpretation of the last prophecy of our Lord concerning the destruction of Jerusalem 1841 - "Perhaps it is the misunderstanding of this word which has been one of the great causes of the misunderstanding of the prophecy; leading men to suppose, that all the things here spoken of must have been fulfilled in some sense or other at the desolation of Jerusalem; but as they plainly all the while saw that they had not been so"

  • Sam Frost: Refreshing Look at First Corinthians 15 "What Full Preterists do is take “timing” and define “nature” based on the assumption of an “all at once, all at one event, all at one time” definition of “fulfillment.” Once they have you hooked on that, they can make their arguments of “consistency.” Once they devalue the orthodox doctrine of resurrection (as a “myth”, a “fairy tale”, “ludicrous”), then you are free to “come up” with a new meaning: either “corporate view” or “get a new body when you die” view. Both of which have been condemned by the Church."

  • Orthodox Preterist: Victorious Eschatology by Eberle and Trench "Although Eberle and Trench make it clear they do NOT agree with hyper-preterism they still cite and recommend a few of their works, like John L. Bray's*, John R. Noe's*, and Kurt Simmons' works."

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Patrick Stone's Idealist Preterism Chart

  • Former Full Preterists: Sam Frost - Full Preterism Refuted (2011)"On Sovereign Grace Preterism, Christian Ortiz posted (an) article from his Pastor. James Metzger posted as response as well. The pastor’s response is actually pretty solid, laying out the basic differences. The major point at which scholars would disagree is concerning Jesus’ reference to “this generation”

  • Former Full Preterists: Sam Frost - Degrading the Gospel (2011) "It is a stated dogma of Full Preterism: history, procreation, cannot ever, ever, ever, ever end. There can be no “may” or “it might”, or any inference that God “may” according to some inforeseen plan that is known only to him end history or procreation. There is no “may.” Siegle and Green mean, very clearly, that history and procreation is infinite. The Bible teaches this, they say. It is a necessary, logically deduced conclusion derived from the other aspects of Full Preterist doctrine."

  • Michael Bull: Bible Matrix II: The Covenant Key  - Free PDF of the Preface, Introduction and first two chapters of The Covenant Key. / "the five-fold Covenant model of the Torah made a hyperpreterist interpretation of Revelation 20-22 impossible."


FIGHTING FOR SUPREMACY: AD30/33 VS. AD68/70
(AND DON'T FORGET AD 312 or 135 or 79)

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones "Christ is fulfilling the law on the cross, and unless you interpret the cross, and Christ's death upon it, in strict terms of the fulfilling of the law you have not the scriptural view of the death upon the cross."  (Studies in the Sermon on the Mount, p. 168)

AD70 Storyline Fundamentally Different



"the fall of Jerusalem was the coming of Christ in His kingdom"

  • Preterist-Idealism: Isaac Williams: The Apocalypse: with notes and reflections (1852) "But the presence of the Lamb has rendered that easy which before was difficult." The six Seals appear to be fulfilled in the forty years in which the Spirit pleaded with Jerusalem before its destruction; this may be the writing "without," as understood by all: but every Seal seems also to have an ulterior fulfilment, which is the hidden sense "written within".

    • Thomas Scott: "The Praeterists—who think that the events with which the visions were concerned are altogether fulfilled, having taken place in the first centuries of Church history—are very numerous. And at present one section of the School—those who think that the book is concerned almost entirely with contemporaneous history—is very vigorously supported by Archdeacon Farrar. He thinks that the crash, and the coming of the Lord, to which the visions all point, refer to the Lord's coming at the destruction of Jerusalem, and the breaking up of the entire Jewish polity. Others of this School allow a more extended scope for the visions, and refer the predicted crash to the breaking down of heathenism before Christianity, or to the breaking up of the Roman empire. But many of the most thoughtful of the Praeterists admit (or strongly advocate) that the visions and these events have lessons for all ages, and look forward as well as back. Thus there are commentators—such as Isaac Williams, Maurice, Hengstenberg, Boussett, Vaughan, and others—who may be classed among the interpreters of both the Spiritual and Praeterist Schools; and all of the Spiritual School can recognize in the events to which both the Historic and Praeterist Schools point, illustrations of the principles which we think the Apostle depicted in these visions." (1891)


IS 1618 USAGE OF "PRETERPERFECT" IN DISTINGUISHING PAST FULFILLMENT PRECURSOR TO 19TH C. TERM "PRETERISM"?

David Pareus (1618) "The Angell saith.. is come, for, shall certainly come, by an usuall Enallage of the preterperfect tense instead of the future." (p 342)

"What Pareus refers to as "preterperfect" is in a modern grammar the second aorist active indicative. The "dramatic" aorist states a result "on the point of being accomplsihed" with the emphatic "certitude of a past event," although the aorist has "no essentian temporal significance" (John Charles Hawley ; Dana and Mantey 1955: 198, 193)


G.L. Stone

The Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy;

or, All pure prophecy terminated in the Advent of Christ and the establishment of Christianity

G.L. Stone - "It may as well be stated also here, that the Professor (Samuel Lee) appears to have been more indebted to Calvin than he seemed to be aware of; while the valuable labours of Grotius and Hammond — indeed, it may be added, of Bossuet and Calmet—immensely helped towards the same conclusion."



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AD70 Resurrection Fundamentally Different / The Best Eschatology is a Proper Christology

Scholars differ on what the Bible says about the End Times (2009) "The only views that qualify as unorthodox are those that deny a future coming of Christ" - Russell D. Moore, senior vice president for academic administration and dean of the theology school at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Ky. [PreteristArchive.com's classification for "Hyper Preterism" includes (quite reasonably) this doctrine of "The Second and Only Coming of Jesus in AD70"]

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Fulfilled Prophecy Bibliography | FREE ONLINE BOOKS HERE | A Dictionary of the Writers on the Prophecies (PDF) | Works Relating to Jews in the New York Library (PDF) | All PDF Book Files Now in One Directory

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Administrative: Simple Classification and Color Schemes Given to Distinguish Between Forms of Fulfillment Eschatology: 

Futurism (F) - (No Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 & Revelation in 1st C. - Types of Future Events Only)
 
Historical Preterism (HP) - (Minor Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 or Revelation in Past)
 
Modern Preterism (MP) - (Major Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 or Revelation in Past)
 

Hyper Preterism (HyP) - (Absolute Fulfillment of all Bible prophecy - Full Preterism and "Resurrection Past" Teachings; Full Preterism is systematized Hyper Preterism - All Full Preterism is Hyper Preterism, but not all Hyper Preterism is Full Preterism.) 

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AD70 is awesome!  ..when used as a template of how Jesus has worked, is working, and will work.  When seen as a single working 2,000 years ago... not so much.



FIGHTING FOR SUPREMACY: AD30/33 VS. AD68/70
(AND DON'T FORGET AD 312 or 135 or 79)

Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones "Christ is fulfilling the law on the cross, and unless you interpret the cross, and Christ's death upon it, in strict terms of the fulfilling of the law you have not the scriptural view of the death upon the cross."  (Studies in the Sermon on the Mount, p. 168)


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A History of the New Testament Times


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"Near" / "close" / "at hand" in the Old Testament

My righteousness is near; My salvation went out; and My arms shall judge peoples; coastlands shall wait on Me, and they shall hope on My arm. (Isa 51:5 LITV)

Vengeance and retribution belong to Me; in due time their foot will slip; for the day of their calamity is near, and the things prepared are hurrying for them. (Deu 32:35 LITV)

Alas for the day! For the day of Jehovah is at hand. And it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. (Joe 1:15 LITV)

Blow a ram's horn in Zion, and shout an alarm in My holy mountain. Let all those living in the land tremble. For the day of Jehovah approaches; it is near, (Joe 2:1 LITV)

For the day of Jehovah is near on all the nations: As you have done, it shall be done to you; your reward shall return on your head! (Oba 1:15 LITV)


The Philip Mauro Library - 60 titles on one CD // The 27 Sieges of Jerusalem // Theology Explained

King James I (1588) "Of all the Scriptures, the buik of the Reuelatioun is maist meit for this our last age..  Iudge yif this be not ye tyme quhairof this place that I have maide chois of doeth meane, and sa ye dew tyme for the reueiling of this prophecie." (Ane fuitfull Meditatioun contening ane plane and facill exposition of ye 7,8,9 and 10 versis of the 20 Chap. of the Reuelatioun - Edinburgh)

Emperor Titus "God co-operates with us. -- Their miseries, by your valor and God's assistance, are multiplied. Their factions, famine, siege, and the falling of their walls without a battery, do they not manifest that God is angry with them, and assists us?" (Jewish Wars, l. vi. c. 1. 5.)

 

New 18th Century Modern Preterist: The Hugely Influential Gregory Sharpe, Chaplain to King George III and "Master" of the famed Temple Church


ARTchive Churban

James Edson White - The Coming King (1911)

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The Contribution of British Writers Between 1560 and 1830 to the Interpretation of Revelation 13.16-18 - Chapter Five : 1649-1660 - Henry Hammond and the Preterist School of Interpretation "This volume contained a brave but lonely attempt to introduce the preterist interpretation of the Book of Revelation to English soil.  Hammond laid great stress on the opening words of the Apocalypse in which  the book is said to contain 'things which must shortly come to pass.'  .. But those who argued for the preterist interpretation of the Book of Revelation.. were playing to empty galleries, until at least the fourth decade of the nineteenth century.  Their views were anything but popular and those who followed them could soon find themselves branded with the infamous mark of the papal beast."  Others who followed: Herbert Thorndike / "author of an anonymous tract on the Millennium published in 1693 ("Millennianism : or, Christ's Thousand Years Reign upon Earth, considered, in a Familiar Letter to a Friend")"  / Daniel Mace

 

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Constantine the.. Pret!

Eusebius
: "I am filled with wonder at the intellectual greatness of the emperor, who as if by divine inspiration thus expressed what the prophets had foretold concerning this monster"


BOOKS / SEARCHING...

  • Burlington, J.N. "Destruction of Jerusalem" - 1807.

  • Butt, John Martin - The Revelation of St. John compared with itself, and the rest of Scripture ; The Divinity of the Apocalypse demonstrated by its fulfillment.

  • Clarke, Richard - A Discourse on the third day of the Gospel, compared with the seventh day of the Law.  London 1794

  • Clericus, Joan.  Veteris Testamenti Prophetae ab Esaia ad Malachiam usque, ex translatione Joannis Clerici ; cum ejusdem commentario philologico &c. Amst. 1731

  • Cocceius, Joh. Prof. of Hebrew at Leyden.  Comm. in prophetica Jeremiae et Ezekielis Amst. 1669.

  • Collyer, Wm. Bengo, D.D. - Lectures on Scripture Prophecy. London 1811

  • Corrodi, Heinrich - A critical history of Chiliasm, or opinions respeecting the millennial reign of Christ. Zurich - First published anonymously in 1781.

  • Eichorn, Joh. Godf. - Commentarius in Apocalypsin Johannis.  Gotting. 1791.

  • Faber, George Stanley. The Sacred Calendar of Prophecy. London 1828 (In this work, which is the last of Mr. Faber's of any importance, he abandons much of the interpretation which he had previously published)

  • Fehr, Sam. Benj. - An introduction to the right understanding and use of the Revelation of St. John (or rather of Jesus Christ) ; and as to what relates to the past, sufficiently illustrated from ecclesiastical and secular history.  (Ger.) Altenburg, 1761.

  • Greenhill, Jos. A.M. Rector of East Horsley - An Essay on the prophecies of the New Testament which relate to the destruction of Jerusalem. Lodon. 1755.

  • Grotius, Hugo - Comm. ad loca quaedam Novi Test. Quae de Antichristo agunt aut agere putantur.  Amst. 1640.

  • Lee, Samuel - Sermons and Dissertations. | Six sermons on the study of Holy Scriptures, their nature, interpretation, and some of their most important doctrines

  • Park, J.R. ; M.D. - An amicable controversy with a Jewish Rabbi on the Messiah's coming. 1832. ; A new exposition of the Apocalypse, so far as the prophecies are fulfilled ; to which are prefixed the history of Christianity epitomised. 1834.

  • Rainolds, John D.D. - A discourse on the destruction of the Idumeans. 1584

  • Stockwood, John - A Sermon on the Destruction of Ierusalem - Printed by Tho. Dawson, 1584

  • Whiston, William - The Accomplishment of Scripture prophecies


James Stuart Russell

  • The Parousia (1878)

    Full Preterist Millennium "violent and unnatural" "Some interpreters indeed attempt to get over the difficulty by supposing that the thousand years, being a symbolic number, may represent a period of very short duration, and so bring the whole within the prescribed apocalyptic limits; but this method of interpretation appears to us so violent and unnatural that we cannot hesitate to reject it. " (p. 514)

    Revelation 20:5-10 Still Unfulfilled "We must consequently regard this prediction of the loosing of Satan, and the events that follow, as still future, and therefore unfulfilled." (p. 523)


 

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