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INTRODUCTION TO NEW CLASSIFICATION
When a Dispensationalist, I was shocked to learn that there were other forms of Premillennialism I could move into -- even though at that time the idea of leaving the overarching system altogether was completely unknown. Once it became clear that I could more forward out of that entire system, then I was freed from all the chains in which that method had put my theology (and therefore my walk in the Spirit). Having moved into full preterism later, I didn't think that there was anywhere else to go ; however, there are a number of ways that the scripture can be understood in different ways which opens new doors. Conferring with luminaries such as Bishop John Lightfoot or Canon F.W. Farrar will reveal how liberating that broadening step is in faith and belief. You can have fulfillment in AD70 in type, while still embracing the true fulfillment of kingdom prophecies yesterday, today, and forever.
For the first decade of being a full preterist I had no idea there was anywhere else to go but "back" to something from before. But time, studies and experience revealed that there are many other ways to reckon the fall of Jerusalem -- and some in very impactful ways for my life. Idealist approaches which recognize AD70 in a typical fashion are held up in particular esteem because of their ability to connect to the life of the believer. Seeing as how symbols do not symbolize themselves, putting AD70 in its proper place - massively subservient in prophetic grandeur to the Advent of Jesus Christ - is highly recommended (and the only real way to remain loyal to the King's Christianity).
Strictly preterist eschatology also has a few sterling alternatives given throughout Christian history. Perhaps the most glorious outcropping of preterism in history came straight from the throne of the world's leader in the early 4th century. Constantine's labarum should be considered the pinnacle of historical preterism, but is largely unknown or ignored -- oftentimes especially among the crowd which sees prophecy extending no farther than ad70.
This page, therefore, will be specifically geared for the many disgruntled full preterists, who were convinced that they had found the ultimate answer, but now are not so sure. There is much more Truth available than full preterism can offer... and rest assured that it is no retreat to advance into a higher (or deeper) levels of understanding regarding the intent of the Word of God. The consequences for going too far, however, are steep. Therefore, keeping proper balance on the line is critical.
A wise explanation of the soundness of a renewed (i.e. critical) inquiry into AD70 Dispensationalism is given by Sam Frost - "Since I have left the movement, after being Full Preterist for 19 years, and teaching, lecturing and writing for 9 years, and having received from my peers the title of “leader” among other “leaders” within the movement, I have seen these tendencies from the outside; while inside, I buried my head, or smoothed over the rough patches. After all, we gotta keep this movement alive at all costs. To turn back now would damage the credibility of what we have taught and sacrificed for so long. We would look like fools, wouldn’t we (one Full Preterist has called me this publically since I left). Rather than admit error, we proceed. It can’t be wrong! Such thinking will secure the firm conviction that a movement of this caliber will not survive."
Spotlighting How Many Theologies Currently Self-Labeled "Full Preterism" Really Aren't
This new classification is also holding pen for reconsideration of works previously labeled as "Hyper Preterism". Includes the works of nominal Full Preterists who have in actuality do not hold to the heretical dispensationalism of the teaching that "ALL Bible prophecy was fulfilled by AD70" -- Most mistakenly self-apply the label "Full Preterists" (Including "Postmillennial Paradise Preterists" such as David Chilton; or, "Immortal Body at Death" Preterists such as Arthur Melanson and Idealist/Eclectic Preterists such as Patrick Stone)
Any theology that goes beyond teaching that "All Bible Prophecy Was Fulfilled by AD70" is not really full preterism. Sam pointed this out while discussing the theology of David Chilton:
"What (Chilton) understood “full” Preterism to be, and what it is today, are virtually two different things." (Pt. 2)
John L. Bray is another example of a man who, though calling himself a full preterist, teaches theology that in no way qualifies as such. If the line between Orthodox Preterism and Hyper Preterism wasn't one of heresy, the distinction wouldn't matter so much.
Full Preterism will always mean the limitation of all prophetic events to no later than AD70.. we can thank R.C. Sproul for cementing that definition. Either Full Preterism must embrace the fulfillment of prophecy post AD70 - which it will never do - or a different classification is in order for those preteristic theologies which do. that is what this page tries to offer.
"So some things are one-time events but have enduring qualities. Other things are not one-time events but only began in the first century and continue today and forever. Judgment is one, and resurrection is another."
Kurt Simmons: Why I have Decided to Discontinue All Association with Planet Preterist (2007) "When I first became active in the area of eschatology, I was asked to participate as a columnist at Planet Preterist. I accepted and, for a time, enjoyed the ability to post articles there at will. However, I have since come to feel that Planet Preterist is an irresponsible forum that is used to promote unbiblical doctrines, including post-Modernism, Emergent church theology, and Universalism, to name but a few. Despite its ostensible purpose to promote Preterist interpretation of scripture, it has probably done more to injure Preterism than help it by allowing Preterism to become associated with so many unbiblical, irresponsible, and just plain "flakey" doctrines. I do not feel in good conscience that I can have my name associated with Planet Preterist as a columnist. I do not agree with what is taught or promoted there, and do not want to appear to condone it by lending it my name. This has been a difficult decision for me, but I feel it is the right one, particularly in light of the present crisis regarding Universalism. Therefore, please remove my name from the list of columnists." http://planetpreterist.com/modules.php?name=Search&query=&topic=13
GENERAL IDEAS PROGRESSING ESCHATOLOGY...
..PAST THE DEAD-END OF AD70.
Can God's Grand Redemptive Plan Really Be Reduced to the a single generation and a single city? Would you do that with the Cross of Christ, likewise a historical event in a particular generation and city ? Here are compelling reasons why the simplistic approach to time texts and revelations may be pointing in the wrong direction
12/20/10: Jason Bradfield - Semper Reformanda Full Preterism (2010) "The rub is ~ given full preterist presuppositions, i want to know how you GOT from point A to point B. Systematically, logically, exegetically. Full preterism has NOT, i repeat, NOT done this! If any full preterist contests that they have, then all they have to do is simply provide the link here to either the work online or to a book they have published. It doesn't exist." // "And since no full preterist has done it ~ then why in the world would any full preterist get upset with me for stepping back and saying, "dang. I don't know about this full pret stuff anymore"? Why in the world would anyone get upset with me for wanting to exercise more CAUTION and to stop being dogmatic about a viewpoint that basically hasn't answered much of squat?"
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Date: 26 Sep 2010
I think it does seem very strange that the church would be wrong for two millinia about the parousia but I also see that it is not logically necessary that because they have believed His coming is still future for all these years that they are correct on that ground. I was a rip roaring futurist and came accross some man on the radio calaiming Christ had already returned. I was taken aback(to be mild about it). But I check everything out, If for nothing else but to refute it. There is considerable support toward the idea that Christ did come sometime in the first century that I can see. I remember having read it in the past but being a young believer at the time and having my "authorities" tell me that there was a good explanation, I let it slide until I had more scripture under my belt.
Indeed, if this is taken to be true, then there would need to be a few changes to some of the creeds. Remember, creeds are summaries of what the scriptures teach. Changes to them should not be made lightly as they are constitutions, as the constitution of the united states is but differ in that we have the source clearly set forth in the scripture from which the documents are drawn.