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An open letter to Dr. Larry Spargamino

By Dr. Kelly Nelson Birks

To the attention of Dr. Spargamino:

Dear Dr. Spargamino:

This is Dr. Kelly Nelson Birks. I am the pastor of Messiah Reformed Church in Omaha Nebraska. I am a Preterist. I am what you referred to today on the radio as an "Extreme Preterist."

With all due respect, according to what I heard on the show today, I do not believe that you are able to defend your futurist view against a real Preterist. Therefore in the interest of glorifying the Lord Jesus by rightly dividing the word of truth, and to offer a better explanation on what the Bible teaches regarding eschatology, I would like to invite you sir to a public debate on the subject of "What did Jesus teach regarding the timing of the Parousia?"

I am open to see this debate conducted "live" on the radio, or possibly if it can be arranged, in person at an agreed upon venue. I am the host of a weekly one hour radio teaching show here in Omaha on am 660 KCRO. We can do the debate on that show if you would like. I would very much appreciate a positive response to my challenge as many men that i have challenged to debate on the subject (Keith Mathison, Andrew Sandlin, Gary Hedrick), have all refused citing numerous excuses. I believe that they refuse to publicly debate me because they do not want to take the chance of being put on the spot in an open forum. I hope that your response to my challenge will not be like theirs.

I appreciate the fact that on the radio show today (Wednesday, 5/ 23) you did not condemn Preterists to Hell or say that they are in some way in an unsaved condition because of our eschatology. I am a regenerate believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, depending upon his grace alone to save me. I confess with my mouth, "Jesus is Lord, and believe in my heart that God raised him from dead." I know that I have everlasting life because of Christ's statement in John 6: 47, "He that believeth on me has everlasting life." I am saved by grace through faith and that not of myself it is the gift of God.

I wanted you to understand that you are not responding to someone outside of the faith of Christ.

I look forward to your response.

Sincerely in Christ,

Kelly Birks, Ph.D

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09 Nov 2004




is all Omahas preterists?


25 Nov 2004




Question. DID christians and christ through the holy sprit reign under constantean for 1000 years from 352ad until 1352ad? thanks JNL


25 Nov 2004




Question. DID christians and [christ] through the [holy sprit] reign under constantean for 1000 years from 352ad until 1352ad? thanks JNL. E;mail junebug44


25 Nov 2004




THank God for kelly birks JNL okla.


20 Dec 2004




I am curious is Kelly Birks Pro-Israel since he is a Preterist

Date: 13 Jun 2006
Time: 14:40:33


Dr. Birks has answered Seraiah. If one is going to exalt the creeds over against the scriptures at least be consistent with the creeds yourself. Dr. Birks is 100% correct when he insists that no creed allows for a third parousia. Although I agree with Dr. Birks, I think it is a bit much to insist that we drop the use of "2nd Advent." The 19th century Preterists like Desprez,Terry and others used it.

Date: 29 Jul 2012
Time: 03:14:20

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There Is Plenty Of Information Out There That Refutes Full And Partial Preterism. Dr. Birks Condemns Full Preterists For Taking His Own Methods Consistently And Seriously. He Doesn't Believe In A Literal Mark In The End Or A Literal Burning Of The Earth (Revelation 13; 2 Peter 3), But Wants Everyone To Believe In A Literal Hell. He Is Inconsistent At Best.

"While many Preterists are not liberal in their overall theology, this movement leads to liberalism. If all the language of Scripture pertaining to the Second Coming of Christ is not to be taken historically and in a normal sense, then why not take the virgin birth of Christ, for example, or other miracles in a "spiritualized" way, as the Preterists do in reference to prophecy? Preterism opens the door for similar liberal departure.

This is not true of classical premillennialism that argues, from Genesis to Revelation, the Bible must be understood in its normal meaning and in its plain sense. Premillennialists are thus consistent. But Preterists must sweep all of the Second Coming passages with a broad broom that forever gets rid of any future, historic, and objective return of Christ. Once common sense interpretation has been abandoned, there is rarely a turning back."


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