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Reply to Vander Werff By Kingdom Counsel There really is not much to respond to in Mr. Vander Werffs article against the preterist view of eschatology. He fails to accept the golden opportunity to deal with the numerous questions I posed to futurists in my article, "Yes, The Lord Did Return In 70 AD". Until the futurists answer our questions about the imminency statements in the New Testament, there is not much to discuss. Time, as we have said over and over, is the crucial element in Bible eschatology. Such criticisms - such as the ones Mr. Vander Werff makes concerning the relevancy of Scripture to us today - are easily answered. I value the Bible even more as a result of knowing that all the prophecies about God's plan to redeem mankind from sin and death have come to pass. Also, the falling away which Mr. vander Werff mentions can easily be seen as having a fulfillment there in the first century (See 1 John, Jude, 1 & 2 Peter, etc.). The real issue here is TIME. And I will continue to pound away at that item until the futurists respond with some kind of intelligent and meaning-ful discussion. I'll gladly admit my error if I can have the time texts of eschatology explained to my satisfaction. Until then, vague and unconvincing arguments will do more harm than good to the futurist position. Simply saying, "it didn't happen" will convince no one. One last note: Please, Mr. vander Werff, show me where the Scriptures are that prove that a knowledge of a 'futurist' view of the second coming is essential to salvation. I especially take issue with this assertion because it implies that I am doomed to Hell if I believe God's Plan of redemption has been completed (the second coming was part of that plan). Such statements are bold and dangerous to make. Now I want to see the logic behind this seemingly clear matter. (Permission to Reprint Graciously Granted by Kingdom Publications) Please See: Further Repsonse to Vander Werff - By Kingdom Counsel
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Warning: "Full
Preterist" material is being archived for balanced representation of all
Christian Preterist views, but its premise is deemed by the opinion of
the curator (a
former full preterist) to be "toxic theology." Due to its
brash and "letter-based" appeal to the flesh and "things seen," it very
subtly draws people away from the truth of the Spirit and His "unseen things"
(core components of the system being extra-biblical history and logic -- because there is
not one full preterist verse which looks back to
fulfillment in ad70,
it is based entirely upon deductive reasoning). If you have already
adopted this viewpoint, please seriously consider that according to full
preterism, AD70 was not only the end of Old Testament Judaism, but it was also
the end of the revelation of Christianity as seen in the New Testament.
This is done by teaching that AD70 was a "dispensational line"
regarding redemption and the like which makes the revealed New Testament
Christianity completely different from that of today (faith vs. sight ; hope vs.
fulfilled, no more paraclete work of the Holy Spirit, much etc.).
Teaching such a wholesale overthrow of biblical
Christianity is hugely irresponsible and catastrophically dangerous, is it not?
If the New Testament scriptures do not reveal our circumstances as
Christians, then what does? If you find yourself reading the Bible through
the filter of AD70, trying to decide what applies to today and what does not,
then you know you are already coming under the influence of this tendency. Please also note that the earliest
known adherents of full preterism later abandoned it, as have many contemporary
former full preterists, including the curator of this archive (after a decade
of promotion). The "past spiritual resurrection" view is the theology that Paul
condemned in II Timothy 2:17-18, and the cessationism of this view likewise
overthrows faith and hope -- by doctrinal insistence that faith has been turned
into sight, and that hope became a tree of life in AD70, etc. The article
which follows is deemed "full preterist" in nature
-- so please proceed with extreme caution. If this article is not "full
preterist" in nature, please notify me and I will have it reclassified.
