FPs: David Chilton | Samuel Frost | Max King | Tim King | Don Preston | Kurt Simmons | Ed Stevens Richard Anthony Scriptures Say When Jesus Would Come! (2002) "If Jesus didn't come back in the first century when he said that he would, then you might as well throw your Bible out" Every man was rewarded according to his works in AD70 Every reference to the Lord's coming is a time statement pointing to AD70 Jesus was a liar if his second coming wasn't in AD70 Scripture is not inspired if Jesus' second coming wasn't in AD70 William H. Bell Jr. - Church of Christ When Did Miracles Cease? - "If that redemption were "completed" at the cross or on the day of Pentecost, then miraculous gifts were a useless commodity to the church" The church came under a new dispensation after AD70 There are no "miraculous operations of the Spirit" after AD70 The gift of inspiration to apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers ceased in AD70 Christian Age on earth doesn't start until AD70 Christian Age on earth is without end Supernatural power of evil ceased in AD70 The earnest and sealing of the Holy Spirit was only until AD70 The "day of redemption" was in AD70 In AD70 God was seen "face to face" In AD70 the church came to the unity of faith The Parousia and Acts 1:11 - "Any interpretation of Acts 1:11 that fails to honor the time limitations for the parousia is not "exegesis" but "eisegesis"!" Jesus' prayer "thy kingdom come" no longer valid - kingdom came in AD70 God anticipated the errors of "parousia delay" by placing related verses next to time texts The Dead Are Raised - "Yes, the dead are raised. Hades has been destroyed. The way into the holiest of all is now manifest. Thanks be to God who gave us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." The "eternal new covenant age" is earthly, and started in AD70 There was no resurrection prior to AD70 Sonship in Christ is equated with resurrection Jesus' declaration that there is no marriage in the AD70 age to come doesn't preclude marriage The patriarchs were resurrected into the eternal kingdom when it came in AD70 The saints from the east, west, north and south sat down and inherited the kingdom in AD70 The gathering of the elect from the four winds happened at the fall of Jerusalem in AD70 The great sound of the trumpet happened in AD70 Hades was destroyed in AD70 The way into the holiest of all was made manifest in AD70 A Boat Divided Against Itself Cannot Float - "Noah's ark cannot be split according to scripture. The division in Matthew is unsupported, unsubstantiated and indefensible. Luke 17 links Noah with the fleeing event, all in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. A future coming of Christ that disregards these facts simply cannot be as it was in the days of Noah." God anticipated the errors of "parousia delay" by placing related verses next to AD70 time texts Christ's only coming was in AD70, the parousia limited to that event Challenging Concepts Of The Resurrection - "The resurrection of saints from Hades and the change of the "living" as far as we know, was not perceivable to the physical eye. The limits of physical observation do not deny, disprove, or otherwise negate the clear teachings of scripture that the resurrection occurred in 70 A.D." Israel's captivity was symbolic of the saint's captivity prior to AD70 The "fall of Babylon" is the fall of national Israel in AD70 AD70 was the resurrection of the saints to their homeland, the new heaven and earth The deliverance of the saints in AD70 was the opening of the graves and the bringing forth of all into judgment The indwelling of the Spirit ceased in AD70 The dead saints were resurrected from hades in AD70 The resurrection of the "living" occurred in 70 A.D., in connection with the fall of Jerusalem This Present Evil Age - "Eternal life will be seen in Matthew where it is seen in Hebrews, in A.D.70, at the fall of the temple and Jewish commonwealth. " The Bible was written in a different dispensation, as it was all written prior to AD70 The Christian age didn't start until AD70 The "world to come" is earthly in nature, and started in AD70 The saints deliverance from "this age" was in AD70 at the return of Christ "the law" is the "Jewish age" The gospel was not part of "this present age" of Scripture Jesus taught that the consummation of the age was Jerusalem's fall in AD70 Matthew 24-25 cannot be divided -- all referring to AD70 The church could not enter into the holy of holies until AD70 Eternal life did not come until the fall of the temple in AD70 The Illusion Of The Conclusion - "Old Covenant Israel must be introduced into the equation as consideration of the creation in Romans 8. There was a real need to deliver them from the bondage of sin-death. Christ took on the nature of his brethren (Old Covenant Israel) that he might suffer sin-death with them in order to destroy the power of Satan and subsequently deliver his brethren from that bondage,." Old Covenant Israel was the creation that was to be freed from sin/death in AD70 Christ took the nature of Old Covenant Israel to die sin/death and deliver them from bondage The "present age" was a transition period from Old Covenant to the establishment of the New  in AD70 This transition was from AD30 to AD70 Judaizers persecuted Christians because of their teaching of an imminent return of Christ The "sufferings" were eschatological in nature The creation's reception of glory came in AD70 The "world" of 1 John 3:1-2 was Jewish The consummation of the ages was in AD70 The New Testament saints were freed from the bondage of corruption in AD70 New Covenant saints were perfected in AD70 The Holy Spirit completed his work in AD70 Philippians 4:5 - Spatialogy or Eschatology - "No mild fit of intellectual wresting can sever this text from the subject of the Parousia, nor lessen its emphatic nearness." Universal acknowledgment of Christ's sovereignty came in AD70 The resurrection was completed in AD70 Don Preston - Church of Christ The Passing of the Elements: II Peter 3:10 - "The word translated as world is from cosmos. It is unfortunate that when this word is used in scripture most people think it has to speak of the physical universe." The Greek word "stoicheia" only has reference to the rites of Old Covenant Israel For Paul, the destruction of the world meant the passing of the Old Covenant world The passing of the "old world" and the coming of the "new world" was in AD70 The "day of the Lord" was exclusively AD70 The crucifixion initiated atonement, but left it incomplete until the second coming. Atonement was completed in AD70 An Airtight Argument? - "We are convinced the only construct of Mark 8:38-9:1 and parallels which satisfies the chronological and contextual demands is to understand Jesus predicting his return in full glory to judge all men... This happened in 70 A.D. when he destroyed Jerusalem" The kingdom was not full grown until AD70 The scheme of redemption was completed in AD70 Kingdom established, yet not fully established on Pentecost Jesus returned in fully glory in AD70 Jesus returned, with his angels, to judge every man in AD70 Misconceptions About Misconceptions - "Since the disciples did not lack understanding as has been generally assumed, it is easy to correlate the parallel passages of Mark 13 and Luke 21 with Matthew 24." The parable of the tares was fulfilled in AD70 The parable of the pearl was fulfilled in AD70 The parable of the fish net was fulfilled in AD70 Matthew 24 is a singular discourse about the only parousia of Christ, which was in AD70 MORE TO COME...

Full Preterist Books P.S. Desprez The Apocalypse Fulfilled in the Consummation of the Mosaic Economy (1854) "It remains to be tried whether the ideas of a finished salvation, a perfected Christianity, an open kingdom of heaven, a life-state in Christ, an eternal reign in an eternal kingdom already set up, might not have a more constraining influence upon mankind than the questionable theory of an uncertain coming." Robert Townley Robert Townley: The Second Advent of Jesus Christ: A Past Event (1845) Earliest Known Full Preterist Book Converted to Universalism Shortly After Releasing Earliest Known Full Preterist Book in 1845 -  PDF Three Grand Expositions of Man's Enmity to God (1845) Thom's Response to Robert Townley (earliest known Full Preterist), who converted to Universalism shortly thereafter. "Professor (George) Bush is, I perceive, a favourite writer with (Townley). He is also a favourite with the American Universalists, a body which boasts of numbering among its adherents above 600,000 individuals, and which happens to agree with my friend in his notion of Christ's second coming being past." David Chilton Foreword to "What Happened in AD70?" - "In this slim volume, Edward E. Stevens clearly and convincingly demonstrates that our Lord Jesus Christ predicted His Return within the lifetime of His first-century hearers."  (Modern Preterist) Ward Fenley The Second Coming of Christ Already Happened! (1997)  Online Bible Books: Ed Stevens' "What Happened in AD70?" "The author clearly and convincingly demonstrates that our Lord Jesus Christ predicted His Return within the lifetime of His first-century hearers."

• Former Full Preterists: Jared Coleman - In defense of an atheistic morality "I’ve been having some fun conversing with several of my Christian friends about the basis for a godless morality. Many Christians think that there can be no such legitimate basis. They fear that the loss of an objective and absolute moral standard will result in complete moral subjectivity and relativity. I understand this fear because such a world would be a dreadful place indeed. Fortunately, this is a false dichotomy, and there is a middle way."

• R. Edwards -  (9 year Full Pret) - Interview with Gene Cook on Unchained Radio / Archives "A lot of times, Full Preterists become Universalists."  "When you add all these things up  together, with the Universalism,  the covenant creation, with the poor character, with the idea that the law has been destroyed, it just got too much" "Between all of the theological problems, and the textual problems, and the character problems, I just cannot support that anymore."  // Gene Cook: "a lot of the Full Preterists I've come in contact with .. they are strange, they are just weird"

• John Anderson - Host of "Voice of Reason" - Explained shift to partial preterist view on 11/11/7 Broadcast (AD70 Binding of Satan ; 1948 Loosing)

• Philip S. Desprez: Wrote second-oldest known Full Preterist book, but left that view for a more critically mature approach, built a wide reputation as a higher critic of the books of Daniel and Revelation.  His take on full preterism after his conversion away: "something more was intended by the coming itself and the unearthly scenes with which it is said to be accompanied, than the destruction of Jerusalem and the subsequent establishment of Christianity.  However momentous the ruin of their city might have been to the Jews, it could not have materially affected the Gentile converts to whom the warnings relating to the advent were principally addressed." (Daniel; or, The apocalypse of the Old Testament (1865) Written after his conversion away from full preterism "We are not ashamed to confess our inability to reconcile the proximity under which these phenomena are announced with the actual course of events. We seem to be painfully conscious of the existence of a serious discrepancy between the latter-day anticipations of the New Testament and what might be considered their due and legitimate fulfilment: a conviction arising not from a superficial or deceitful handling of the sacred text, but from a reverent and careful examination, extended over many years, of this particular question ; and we think it the part of exegetical consistency to endeavour to grapple with it, before we stereotype with too great confidence traditional opinions which appear unable to stand the test of searching and out-spoken criticism. "

• David P. Crews - My Journey From Religion to Rationalism "In my Christian life, I was often a teacher, but never a preacher in the traditional sense. I did write and publish (in 1994) a book about the New Testament that helped start an ongoing movement in Christianity called Preterism. I began writing the actual text of the book in 1990, and decided the only way this book would actually become published was if I produced it myself. In order to control the production of my book completely, I formed my own publishing company, New Light Publishing, in 1994. “Prophecy Fulfilled - God’s Perfect Church” was published in that year.  All during this time, I assumed that I and a few family members were the only ones who knew and held to the preterist view. Interestingly, however, just prior to publication, I found out I was not alone! There were many others who had come to essentially the same conclusions independently of one another, and had formed an ongoing community with journals, seminars, and other connections. Kingdom Counsel (now the International Preterist Association) held a preterism seminar in Pennsylvania in the summer of 1994 and I attended it to introduce my book."

• BS : "After much "hemming and hawing" over the last several months, I've at last decided to reject "Full Preterism."  When I first accepted this system, I was looking for some answers-- trying to tie up loose ends in my paradigm-- and F.P. seemed to solve the problem.  However, the more I've studied, the more contradictions I've found.  It seems to me now that F.P. tends to completely cancel out the "everlasting Gospel" preached by Christ and the apostles.  Not only that, but it squeezes Messianic prophecies into a pre-A.D. 70 fulfillment, and forces far-fetched and extremely hypothetical interpretations on Scripture.  There are many more fatal errors in this system, and I hope to expose them all in due time.  I'm no longer a full preterist. I am now an Preterist Idealist. When I first accepted full preterism, I went against my better judgment and listened to people who "had the answers."  However, this system is merely Satan's delusion to lead people away from the saving truths of the gospel. That is why it lacks any spiritual power.  It's a false gospel!!  Jesus Christ is the Word of God, and so all Scripture is fulfilled in Him -- not in history."  

• Marcus Booker: When Our House is Torn Down "the law is done away on an individual level (not to the exclusion of the historical passing away of the Law of Moses). What I am presenting in this article is a more systematic development and exploration of this idea. "

• Jonathan M. Companik: The Anti-Church Movement (Hyper-Preterism) (2004) "These times of refreshing are still to come (on a cosmic scale), as reported by the prophets (Acts 3:19). Hyper-Preterists would like to discuss this in terms of a subjective, inward, and mystical "refreshing", but that ignores the very historical, geographical description and context in which these prophecies were couched originally. It is every generation's job within the Church to seek to hasten the coming of the Day of Christ."

• Todd Dennis: Introduction to a Hybrid of Preterism and Idealism (2006) "Though full preterist systems don't dispute that spiritual truths can be taken as applications of AD70, this idealist hybrid takes exactly the opposite view -- that AD70 was the application of the spiritual realities.   ..The most common complaint against the full preterist view is its inability to answer the "what now?" questions... but there is a concern that runs much deeper.  By identifying  the corporate "consummation of the ages" as having been settled for all time in AD70, the individual believers' "transition period" is removed from today, being made a first century reality alone.  This error neglects the importance of the "glory to glory" process at work in the life of the believer, and chooses rather to accept that there is no sin, death, or devil to be contended with today.  In short, full preterist doctrine chooses the corporate over the individual, and this betrayal results in much suffering."

• Nathan DuBois:  Why I Needed to Repent: A Letter to a Friend... Among Friends (2006) "Am I saying full preterists are the Pharisees of today? NO!   But I am saying I AM ONE!   I was so caught up in the system of things that I could SEE that I was missing, and causing others to miss, the things that can only be seen by the heart. I saw the purpose and will of God in AD 70, the "new" (though very old) law of God being advented, but I missed the heart behind it. I have been guilty of Phariseeism."

• G.R. Gaudreau:  My Journey: A Funny Thing Happened (2000) "It was in October 1996, when I came to Preterism, that I started having these very serious doubts and I just couldn't get rid of them. I kept trying to bury them, but they just kept coming back.  I'm glad I found these errors and I'm grateful to that man who first posted the list of errors. He had a lot of courage. He met with a lot of opposition and stood his ground, because he knew he was right. He could not, would not, ignore the evidence." | The Second Coming: Another Failed Promise (2000) "Preterists constantly accuse futurists of evasion and of dismissing the clear meaning of such passages as those I have cited above, in favour of a soon return of Jesus. But on the other hand, Preterists hyper-spiritualize whatever scriptures are in their way. What's that old French proverb again? Oh yes... "Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose!" Preterists, who accuse their "brethren" of being dishonest with the Scriptures, end up doing exactly the same thing. "

• Cho Sun Hoon: My journey from protestantism to the Catholic Church "Then as I adopted the full preterist viewpoint, I began doing more research, and even attended a live debate between a futurist and a preterist.  The more I learned about preterism, the more I was looking for applications of preterism for the present day:  Namely, where is the parousia (presence of God) if it came to an end?  Some of the full preterist arguments were so convincing, yet there was something missing"

• William Price: My blog about coming out from false doctrine, and into Kingdom reality (2006) "I wanted it to be public that I renounce my full preterist position..  It is not as if prophecy is a salvation issue, but just wanted to share this."

• Russell Warren: Reflections on the End of movements "I would, I guess, consider myself a cautious partial preterist, but no where near the "full" preterism I held in my (earlier) youth.. I remember some of the things that initially made me wary, while I was in the midst of being groomed as a future leader of the movement: sloppy exegesis and dependence on pagan thought for proof (one writer proved that the resurrection body was non-material by referencing, of all people, Plato...shudder). The fruits of that, I am finding out, are now becoming ever apparent. Universalism, the doctrine that all people are saved--whether just by existing or through the remedial means of post-mortem purgatory--is becoming popular and widespread amongst preterists.. This, and the fact that some non-universalist preterists claim that a "secret Rapture" occurred in AD 70, seals the coffin lid for me. " - Withdrawals of a Theological Junkie (Russell Warren)

• Jared Coleman - Why delectatio Dei?  "Lately I have come to really hate the word 'preterist' .. the word focuses on looking backward at a time when I am focused on looking forward (not without looking backward as well, of course). And third, while I still read many of the eschatological passages of scripture in a very similar (though in many cases not the same) way as others in that community, the language of the preterist community is woefully deficient and unless it changes it will never be able to project an adequate picture of the kingdom of God. That last statement is pretty strong, but I believe it just that strongly. Many of you may already agree and so I'm not going to list the reasons here, but if any of my preterist friends want to talk about it we can discuss it in the comments. So, I am not going to use this word to describe myself anymore."
  

• Birks, Kelly Nelson, The End of Sin  (2004). "There exists within the scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, a yet future experiential victory that is to be achieved through the work of Christ as his gospel continues to go forward and invade all peoples, nations, and languages. It will result in the "Teloarmatia: the end of sin" in its experiential existence, within the future history of the human race. "

• Fenley, Ward, The Second Coming of Christ Already Happened! (1998).

• Frost, Samuel M., Misplaced Hope (Bimillennial Press, CO Springs, 2002).

• Fugget, Eric, A Personal Revelation (2003).

• King, Max R., The Spirit of Prophecy (Warren, OH: by the author, 1971). ; The Cross and The Parousia of Christ. (Parkman Road Church of Christ, 1987). ; Old Testament Israel and New Testament Salvation (Warren OH, 1990).

• Kloske, Tom and Steve, The Second Coming: Mission Accomplished

• Martin, Brian L., Behind the Veil of Moses (2004).

• Martin. Timothy P.: Beyond Creation Science - How Preterism Refutes a Global Flood and Impacts the Genesis Debate "This book is a critique of the main Creation Science presupposition from the perspective of covenant thinking.  I hope to demonstrate a methodological, theological and historical correlation between the rise of Creation Science ideology and the prevalence of dispensational theology in America during the 20^th century."

• Noe, John. Beyond the End Times. (Bradford, PA.: IPA, 1999).

• Schuldt, Lynn - Prophecy Paradox

• Simmons, Kurt M., The Consummation of the Ages (2003).

• Stevens, Ed , What Happened in 70 A. D.? (Kingdom Publications, Bradford, Penn.) ; Stevens' Response to Gentry (Kingdom Publications, Bradford, Penn.)

RECENT ADDITIONS

• Kurt Simmons: The Sword and the Plow - August 2007 (PDF File) "This We Believe..."  A Preterist Statement of Faith; and The Great Debate: Does King's Covenant Eschatology Lead to Universalism?  Simmons-Frost Debate - "This debate represents a turning point for Preterism as 30 years of King's influence on Preterism is shown to lead to Universalism!  Equally important,  King's Covenant Eschatology impugns the cross by holding it powerless to save until the Mosaic law was taken away.  Don't miss this watershed event.   Preterism will never be the same again.  (For the full text of the debate, see our web site.)"

BEING EDITED AND CLASSIFIED WITH GREATER SCRUTINY
 PRIOR TO ADDITION

Preterism and "Orthodoxy" - Dr. Gary North vs. David Chilton Compiled by Kevin Craig, X-mas Conspiracy - Gary North: "I have spent about a million dollars to publish books against apocalypticism" & (Chilton was) "the hottest 'theological property' in the West" - "He has now become self-damaged goods delivered on the doorstep of Max King.

Preston

• The Ashes of the Red Heifer - "If Christ has not completely fulfilled the prophetic aspect of the red heifer sacrifice the old law is still in effect. If he has fulfilled the prophetic element of that offering the old law has passed---and death has been abolished."

• Every Eye Shall See Him - "It is strange indeed that such a literalistic interpretation has been imposed on Revelation 1:7 when this violates the inspired interpretation (Matthew 24:30-34) of the source of the verse (Zechariah 12:10.)"

• A Critical Text - "We conclude that Matthew 16:27-28 is a prediction by Jesus to return in judgment, in his kingdom glory, in the lifetime of his disciples."

• With The Sound of the Trumpet - "The trumpet was to be blown for the gathering of God's elect from the "death" of separation from God's presence and fellowship."

• The World That Perished - "Peter foresaw the coming dissolution of another society, the Jewish world. This is exactly what happened in a.d. 70 in the conflagration of the capital, heart, and soul of the Theocracy of Israel."

• How Heaven & Earth Passed Away! - "If you believe that the Old Covenant has passed away then you must believe that Heaven and Earth have passed away!"

• More On Heaven And Earth - "Many passages in the New Testament speak of the "heavens and earth" with no reference to the physical heaven and earth"

• How Is This Possible? - "Since the Thessalonican concept of the day of the Lord was the Old Covenant concept, and their concept was CORRECT then it follows that the day of the Lord for which they were looking was not the end of time but was instead a time when God would judge his people."

• A Local Judgment? - "We find untenable the contention that the fall of Jerusalem was a localized judgment. It was in fact the universal judgment of the living and the dead!"

• More On No Death, No Sorrow, No Pain - "To literalize means that the Old Covenant prophecies have not yet been fulfilled and Jesus taught that all prophecy had to be fulfilled before the Old Covenant could pass."

• World Without End - "The Bible does not speak of the end of time, but of the time of the end."

• Can God Tell Time? - "If "at hand" time statements mean nothing at all, then God cannot tell time."

• Babylon The Great of Revelation - "In Revelation the coming of Christ, the New Creation, judgment and resurrection are associated with the fall of Babylon. To mistakenly identify Babylon is to incorrectly interpret these issues."

• When All Things Written... - "When we mistakenly believe the Bible is concerned about the "end of time" instead of the "time of the end" we cannot allow Jesus' words in Luke 21:22 to speak for themselves."

• Hebrews 9:28 - The Second Coming - "Since Christ's coming in 70 was the coming for redemption, and since he was to return only once for salvation per Hebrews 9:28, then Christ's return in 70 was the final coming of Christ."

• Thessalonians & The Olivet Discourse - "Context and consistency demands the identical subject matter of the Olivet Discourse and II Thessalonians 2--the end of the Old World of Judaism at the coming of Jesus Christ in 70 AD."

• The Time Has Come - "1 Peter 4:17 has revealed very powerful evidence that Peter was anticipating the consummative judgment coming of Jesus."

• Nature of the Parousia - "In his discussion of the transition from the "outer man" to the inner, from the temporal to the eternal, Paul says "we do not look on the things that are seen, but on the things that are unseen" (2 Corinthians 4:16f). He patently cannot be saying that the resurrection change would be unperceived! It would be seen (perceptual) but unseen (not optical!)."

MS Cheo - Singapore Preterist

• The New Heaven and New Earth, Millennium, New Jerusalem - Explained! - "Making fragile human Christians living between A.D.30 to A.D. 70 to be reigning with Christ as Kings and Priests is stretching the words too much."

• "They who pierced Him" and the Horrible Death of Jesus - MS Cheo "This association comes to me as my belief in preterism increases.  I hope the above analysis will bring forth further harmony of the Bible, and (finally) identify the real “they who pierced Him” to be, or at least, the real reason behind. Though I am a preterist, it may not necessary reflect the view and belief of other preterists.  Nevertheless, please share with me your thoughts, reasons and arguments if you think I am going onto a loony path."

• Just who is the Elijah-to-come - Singapore "I believe the crux of the problem in identifying this prophesied Elijah is that we had been taught (or led) to associate the Messenger of Mal 3:1 and the Elijah-to-come  of Mal 4:5 to be one and the same person!  In the flash of a moment, it occurred to me that they could be two distinct persons.  Further studies show me that these two distinct persons did come and faithfully complete their missions during the lifetime of Jesus!  "

David Chilton - Former Reconstructionist Partial Pret

• Foreword to "What Happened in AD70?" (1997) "In this slim volume, Edward E. Stevens clearly and convincingly demonstrates that our Lord Jesus Christ predicted His Return within the lifetime of His first-century hearers."

• Looking For New Heavens and a New Earth (1996) - "Because of what may be called the 'collapsing-universe' terminology used in this passage [2 Peter 3], many have mistakenly assumed that St. Peter is speaking of the final end of the physical heaven and earth, rather than the dissolution of the Old Covenant world order."

David B. Curtis - Reformed

• The Law is Fulfilled  "The Mosaic Law is a unit. It exists as a unit or not at all. This notion that the Mosaic Law can be sliced and diced into ceremonial, civil, and moral is not one that you will find anywhere in the Bible. "

• Preterism and the Lord's Supper - "Redemption is complete, we are now dwelling in the promise land of the New heaven and earth, in the very presence of God. As we observe the Lord's Supper, we celebrate a completed redemption."

• The Theme of Revelation - "Revelation was written before Nero's death in 68AD. The book is largely fulfilled."

• The Resurrection from the Dead - "The Scriptures testify that the time of the resurrection was to be at the end of the Old Covenant age. We know this to have happened in AD 70 with the destruction of the Jewish Temple. The disciples knew that the fall of the temple and the destruction of the city meant the end of the Old Covenant age and the inauguration of a new age."

Kenneth Davies - Evangelical

• An Answer to the Article By Dr. Larry Spargimino - "The "blessed hope" of the New Testament is that Christ would return within the lifetime of at least SOME of those to whom Jesus spoke (Matt. 16:27-28; 24:34, etc.). Dr. Spargimino should deal with the verses cited in the article, "An Air of Expectancy," by Terry Siverd. If that hope was delayed or never occurred (as critics of Christianity, such as the atheist Bertrand Russell allege), then Jesus and His apostles either lied or were mistaken, and Christians truly do have a "blasted hope"!

Dan Delagrave

• The Times of the Gentiles - "Jerusalem's first century desolation represented the time when Christ put his enemies – read I Thessalonians 2:15-16 – under his feet. This was accomplished during a forty two month period which Jesus called "the times of the Gentiles".

Michael Fenemore

• Challenge to the Worldwide Church of God

Ward Fenley - Sovereign Grace

• The General Beliefs of Preterists - "I cannot fault the general heading of preterism..  just because a few have chosen to follow a rabbit trail leading to one of these beliefs with which I disagree. For example, I strongly disagree with any belief that teaches that none of the NT blessings of eternal life are applicable today. But that doesn't mean it is a result of preterism."

• Rapture Light and Glory - "Though the reception of a physical body is defended as being the fundamental principle of the resurrection, Paul declares the following, clearly outlining the nature of the resurrection:"

• Seeing God - "Many are still waiting for some physical sight of Christ or the tree of life, but to those whom God has given sight, our vision is clear and it is sweet Proverbs 13:19 The desire accomplished is sweet to the soul..."

• Why are People Still Given in Marriage? - "the fact that there is still marriage in this physical life does not negate the fact that there is NOT marriage in the kingdom anymore than the fact that there are males and females in this physical life does not negate the fact that there are NOT males or females in the kingdom."

• Absent From the "Body" (An Analysis of II Cor. 5) -  "transformation texts go untouched because they deal with the change from death to life and the progressive salvation that was taking place upon those first century believers. This is why there is such confusion with the imagined "already but not yet" doctrine."

• Seed of Satan, Seed of Christ, and Riches -  "Children are counted as the SEED. They are counted as Christ. We are recipients of EVERY spiritual blessing in heavenly places and execute the reign and rule AS God in the kingdom. Just as Israel entering into the promised land was the executor of the reign of God on the physical earth, so also the NC Israel is the executor of the reign of God on the spiritual earth."

• Glory, the Face of Christ, and Marriage - "Certainly Christ was faithful and the believers appeared with Him in glory as the marital relationship was consummated. What a blessed kingdom we have with a glorious King who owns His glorious bride."

• Psalm 22:22-31: An Exposition - "God shows the immediate punishment coming upon Israel by the Babylonians (Chaldeans), but then gives the glorious prophetic outlook concerning the messianic kingdom. God says He would bring His people health and cure and reveal the abundance of peace and truth to them."

• The Resurrection of the Dead Already Happened! - "True believers in Jesus Christ are completely resurrected in the fullness of the spiritual body mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15."

• The Timing of Regeneration - "Resurrection life and light in the face of Jesus Christ are spiritual realities now for the one who believes on His name."

• A Harmony of the Synoptics Concerning the Destruction of Jerusalem and the Coming of the Lord

• Moses, House, Rest, and the Presence of God - "The seventh day of God's rest represents His union with His people in His rest in causing them to rest and inherit the land."

• The Signal of John the Baptist - "John’s joy was fulfilled in knowing that she was now safe with her Husband-to-be. Why would there be any reason for John to joy in a betrothal that would not be consummated for thousands of years to come? Implicit in John’s announcement that his joy was fulfilled in hearing the voice of the Bridegroom is the manifest indication that the Husband was near."

• Kingdom Of God & The Kingdom of Heaven: Is There A Difference? - "There was one kingdom predicted in the prophets. There was one kingdom of which our Lord spoke. And there was one kingdom that began at Pentecost and was brought to its fulness at the Parousia."

• Heaven, Earth and Sea - "In Revelation Israel (i.e. Jerusalem) was that great harlot who trusted nations rather than God. She forsook her Husband. The Bible describes Israel as the harlot sitting upon many waters. These waters were the seas or the nations in whom she trusted"

• The Last Days - "With the destruction of Jerusalem and its Temple, Jesus Christ brought to complete establishment the eternal Jerusalem from above. The last days concerned Israel and its covenant and nation. We are now in the age that was about to come"

• The Husband Who Draws His Wife - "Forgiveness is the result of the drawing love of God for His bride. Though His bride was once a vile and adulterous woman."

• Resurrection, the Hope of Israel, and the Song of Moses - "The Song of Moses has strong elements of prophecy. This section was particularly striking as it pertains to the resurrection we now have in Christ. The fullness of resurrection comes from the OC Israelite hope of being planted in their land. To them that was resurrection. And we as Gentiles are grafted into that reality through our life with Christ."

• To This End Was I Born (The Reason for the Season) - "During this season we call the Christmas season, we hear many carols that so joyfully proclaim Christ as King: "Come and worship, Come and worship, Worship Christ the newborn King;" "Hark the herald angels sing, 'Glory to the newborn King;'" "Joy to the world, the Lord is come. Let earth receive her King."

• Judgment upon all Nations Fulfilled by the Gospel

• The Failure of the Non-Covenantal Seed Analogy

• A Letter to My Dad (1996)

Bryan Forgy

• 2nd Affirmative by Bryan Forgy on Hermeneutics

• An Answer to Toussaint's 'Critique of the Preterist View of the Olivet Discourse'

Elton Foster - Comprehensive Grace

• The New Man - "the "Resurrection" and the "Spiritual body" cannot and should not be separated. The scriptures are clear, that the two co-inside with each other."

Samuel Frost - "Preterism is an interpretive system that is locked on the events of 66-70 A.D.  It views this as the decisive eschatological event.  The Second Coming, Resurrection of the Dead and Great Judgment are seen as having taken place in and around these years. This is a contradiction to Christian orthodoxy and its Creeds, Councils and all the Reformed, Baptist, and Methodist Standards (and we wonder why preterists are called "heretics"!)." 

• Todd Dennis and Preteristic Idealism (2007) "Just because some universalists are using preterism for a framework that they think helps there case does not make Dennis' accusations here true.  Dennis should be above such types of obvious fallacies. "

• Hosean Allusions in First Corinthians (2006) - "One has to do forensic work in I Cor 15. The oft repeated analogy is that of listening to one end of a phone conversation and trying to figure out the other end. Deductions, clues, hints, implications and inferences can be drawn so that a fairly accurate construction can be had. It was “made known” (vdhlw,qh) to Paul from "the ones of Chloe" that "selfish rivalries" (;ridej) had broken out among the Corinthians (1.11). No doubt, those rivalries were theologically driven at bottom, manifesting ethical and practical differences which began to wreak havoc in the way the Corinthian households gathered together for worship and fellowship."

• Saint Athanasius and Preterism (2005) "The Church must receive what is incontrovertible, but reject what raises serious problems in order to work out a solution within its own traditions that best resolves these problems for the sake of maintaining biblical truth (even if this means eliminating older paradigms which have created the problems in the first place). There will be, and always have been, cries of “heresy” from self-proclaimed “purists” and “keepers of the traditions”. This is to be expected. But, the ever faithful, and, in Luther’s case, the faithful few, keep raising the issues and pointing out the hypocrisy, arbitrariness, and inconsistency until such a voice is raised within the holy church that the “few” become the “many.”

• Propositions of Preterism (2005) "as our dear saint has noted, we are without “vision and prophet.”  We are not guided by burning bushes, splitting Red Seas, clouds by day and fire by night.  These are things seen.  Yet, because redemption had not yet come, the children of Israel needed a schoolmaster."  "the church is perfect according to the word of God, and not according to what we SEE.  That is judging the church as a child, wanting to go back to Egypt.  Modern day yearning for the good old days sound like this: “wouldn’t it be easier if Jesus just came back and did some really cool miracles?  Wouldn’t it be easier if we just discovered the ark of Noah?  Wouldn’t it be easier if we could have incontrovertible proof that Jesus returned in A.D. 70?"

• A Critical Response to Kurt Simmons' Bi-Millennialism (2004)  "The question is, when were these given authority to judge? It must be when they came to life (both are aorist aspects). Thus, when they came to life, they were given thrones and authority to judge, being that they were ‘with Christ.’ This is closely akin to ‘being seated with Him in heavenly places.’ It is this that John is picturing here. When did any ‘come to life’ in Christ?"

• A Critical Response to the Kloskes' Exegesis of I Corinthians 15 (2004) "The “transformation” happens to both the living and the dead at the same time. KK appear to agree with this as the quote above shows, but the “change” given to the “dead” is different from the “change” given to the living, who go on living and eventually die. At the moment of their death they are “changed” by being given a “spiritual body.” However, as the quote above shows, KK believe that they have already, “spiritually speaking” or “internally” been changed with an added dimension of not yet being changed, finally (thus, leaving them to the charge of futurism of some sort). "

Eric Fugett, Author of A Personal Revelation

• The Second Coming of Jesus Was Not in A.D.70 (2004) "Josephus believed it was an act of God that Gallus did not end the war at that time (Josephus, The Wars, Book II, Chapter 19, Sections 4-6). "

• The Birth of Jesus (2004) "Is it just a coincidence that when the one true High Priest comes into the world, that for the first and only time, a temporary High Priest is appointed to perform the important duties for the Day of Atonement? Not if you believe, as I do, that the exact date for Jesus' birthday is the Day of Atonement or September 11, 5 BCE. "

• Matthew 24: Before the Second Coming of Jesus (2004) "In this article, "A Personal Revelation" author, Eric Fugett explains the signs of Matthew 24 that describe the events that were to occur before Jesus returned.

• The Seven Heads and Ten Horns (2004) "David Chilton makes a case for the number "eight" being the number that represents resurrection in his book, Days of Vengeance (pp. 434-437). He sites the eight survivors of the flood, and Jesus’ resurrection on the eighth day (since it was a Sunday) as his reasoning. Therefore, since Rome had struggled through the reigns of Galba, Otho, and Vitellus, Vespasian’s reign represented a resurrection of the Roman Empire’s power. Vespasian defeated most of Judea and sent his son Titus to destroy Jerusalem. Titus is the prince (NKJV) who was prophesied to come and destroy the city and the sanctuary in Daniel 9:26."

• A Personal Revelation (2003) Chapter 1: The Quest Begins "In the first three verses John uses the words "soon take place" and "time is near" to describe the events that he will be writing about. We are told in verse seven that Jesus is coming. If we combine that with the time frame that has already been discussed, then the 1st Century Church must have been relieved, excited, and alarmed as well."

• The Resurrection of the Dead - "1 Corinthians 15:52 tells us that the last trumpet will sound and the dead will be raised. Seven Feasts of Trumpets passed from the time that John was given The Revelation (September 11 63 CE (AD)), to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE (AD). Remember that eight is the number that represents resurrection. The eighth Feast of Trumpets occurred on September 24, 70 CE (AD) shortly after the destruction of Jerusalem. This was the day that the dead were resurrected."

Joseph E. Gautier, Jr.

• Preterist ApoLOGICetic (1998) - "All over the world, on a daily basis, traditional-thinking Christians are being converted to partial preterism. Likewise, all over the world, partial preterists are studying themselves right into full preterism, shedding futurism along the way. The direction is towards the truth."

• David Chilton -   "How is it that David Chilton went towards heresy? Is that what we do? We just wake up one morning, and decide to embrace what we know is heresy? Could it be that David Chilton got it ?"

• The Domino Effect of Matthew 16:27 - "Everything that the Old Testament Prophets had prophesied were fulfilled in that first-century generation of Christians. Just as Jesus said they would."

Charles Geiser - Church of Christ

• New Testament Eschatology: Jude - Jude wrote of the end time, at least in part of his letter, of the Jewish estate just prior to A.D. 70.

• A Survey: Eschatology In Hebrews - Contains fulfillment, prophecy, promises, and the blessings of the new heaven and new earth.

• Greek Word Studies: Time Substantives - "There are at least five Greek terms denoting relative time factors in regards to "near future" events prophesied to take place within the first century milieu or genea (see Matthew 24:34)."

• The Advent of Christ & Acts 2 - "The establishment of the eternal kingdom is equated with the time of Christ's coming in His kingdom with power, which is commonly assigned to Pentecost Day. But this is an assumption lacking scriptural proof."

• The Sermon on the Mount - "Traditionally in churches of Christ many future references in God's Word have been interpreted for individual Christians in each succeeding generation through time."

• Are Christians Today "Strangers and Pilgrims?" - "Would you rather "hope" (as a pilgrim) or "have" as a Christian enjoying and realizing eternal life and the forgiveness of sins?"

• Hebrews 1:14 in Realized Eschatology - "We shall subscribe some concepts to this passage in this writing which we believe are consistent with a realized fulfillment of Bible prophecies concerning salvation in the new heavens and new earth of God which we believe exists today as the eternal kingdom of God."

• Heaven & Earth: OT Studies, Parts I-III - To materialize stars, moon, sun, etc., in Bible prophecy is to step out of the true redemptive history and goal of the promises to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob - If one stays with the Biblical definition of 'earth' in eschatology, then II Peter 3:10-13 will not be saying that this physical planet we call earth is what is meant."

Gabor Gombor - Reformed

• More on the Man of Sin (2003) "If the iniquity refers to the Jewish priesthood and the Man of Lawlessness was probably a leader of a rebellious Jewish party how the two are connected? According to Josephus, neither John Gischala, nor Simon of Gioras were not priests, but simply plunderers, wicked men. How the biblical ignorance of Law can be applied to criminals?"

• Response to Regarding "Annihilationism" (2003)

• Word Games on the Rapture (2002) "The critic who stands against the physical rapture fights against a picture of saints flying into the space. It is the next word game with the “air”. Why did not use the author the world “ouranos” here? Let us realize that a rapture does not require flying into sky. The spiritual-physical rapture does not require for a body to fly up. The body can simply disappear and the invisible new uncorrupted body emanates to the Lord. "

• Habitats of the New Jerusalem (2002)

Danny Green

• Answering Hank, the 'Bible Answer Man'