Hank Hanegraaff and Danny Green
Danny Green and Hank "The Bible Answer Man" - "we're having a problem here.. because now we're not talking about acceptable differences among Christians with regard to the timing of the end, but we're now discussing something that has to do with the Gospel itself"
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Larry Spargimino, Kelly Birks, Ken Davies
Larry Spargimino
Was All Bible Prophecy Fulfilled By A.D.70? - L.S.
"Even the Mark of the Beast is explained as a low - tech brand, used on
slaves and animals. No microchip technology here! Christians need to be
aware of those teachings that would turn "the blessed hope" into "the
blasted hope."
Preterism and the Eclipse of Pre-millennialism - "Pre-millennialists do not have to create doomsday scenarios. They already exist. Denials of the critical nature of our present situation will not make the danger go away."
The Anti-Prophets: The Challenge of Preterism
Kelly Nelson Birks
An Open Letter to Dr. Larry Spargimino
Ken Davies
An Answer to the Article By Dr. Larry Spargimino -
The "blessed hope" of the New Testament is that Christ would return within the lifetime of at least SOME of those to whom Jesus spoke (Matt. 16:27-28; 24:34, etc.). Dr. Spargimino should deal with the verses cited in the article, "An Air of Expectancy," by Terry Siverd. If that hope was delayed or never occurred (as critics of Christianity, such as the atheist Bertrand Russell allege), then Jesus and His apostles either lied or were mistaken, and Christians truly do have a "blasted hope"
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Joey Faust and Bryan Forgy
: Consistent Preterism vs. "Aggressive Futurist" Dispensationalism 1) Resolved: The Grammatico –Historical hermeneutic should be used in the interpretation of prophecy. Rather than the consistent literalism of Dispensationalism. Affirmative: Bryan Forgy - Denial: Joey Faust - 1st Affirmative | 1st Denial | 2nd Affirmative | 2nd Denial 2) 2 Peter 3 refers to a literal, future burning of the earth. | Affirmed By Faust | Denied By Forgy 3) Matthew chapter 24 teaches that the second eschatological coming of Christ was to happen at the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 AD. | Affirm: Forgy | Deny: Faust 4) Revelation 20 teaches a future earthly reign of Christ from Jerusalem that is to last a literal 1000 years. | Affirm: Faust | Deny: Forgy |
J. Ligon Duncan,
President, Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals:
Attractions of the New Perspective(s) on Paul - "I find that
Wright's overly realized eschatology is attractive to students today.
Preterism is all the rage in some conservative Reformed circles these days.
The "already and not yet" is out, and the "been there, done that" is in.
NT eschatology, for the preterist, is retrospective and realized. Well, along
comes Wright, with his very this worldly eschatology, and provides a
high-powered academic justification for the low-rent forms of preterism
circulating in some places today. And they love it. So I have found some
students who have gotten into Wright via his eschatological approach to New
Testament theology. "
Jerry Jenkins on the Second Coming of Christ - "I share the same sort of
frustration with people who say, 'If it was supposed to be soon, why hasn't it
happened in two thousand years?'" "...surprisingly, their numbers are growing -- not because their arguments for what they are trying to believe are so convincing, but because many of their new followers have only heard one side of the argument." (Tim LaHaye, Has Jesus Already Come?, p. 7) |
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FUTURIST ANATHEMAS
AGAINST FP |
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and his future Second Advent, and you shall be saved?
Bands Report
The Great Falling Away Has Begun - "There's a movement in America today that is hell bent on destroying The Word of God Almighty by first fabricating, then spreading, utterly false doctrines., specifically designed to trap YOU as a Christian into questioning your faith. And to cause you to believe in your heart that God is a liar, through a professionally designed system of indoctrination...it is by far the greatest threat to Christianity ever. It is in fact being perpetrated by experts who have been trained at creating, then disseminating, totally misleading, utterly false information, that seeks to cite various verses of the Bible: Then perversely twist them to serve their demonic cause, and quietly undermine your belief in God's Word; and in God Himself, through a proven method of brainwashing !!! This movement against Christianity is called "preterism"."
Stephen Cole
Are you ready for Christ's return?
- "Although those who hold this view say that they are attempting to deal with the biblical texts, I believe that the extreme Preterists go outside the bounds of orthodoxy and are guilty of heresy."
Mark Copeland
Response to "The AD 70 Doctrine Examined" - "But even if one maintains his "faith" while holding to this doctrine, I still believe his soul will be lost. Why? Because he has denied the one "hope", which clearly includes the literal (read- fleshly) resurrection of the body from the dead."
Christian News
ANATHEMA: The Christian News - "the Christian News has thrown down the gauntlet with the charge of heresy against those who espouse Covenant Eschatology"
Faith Bible Church
Knowing the Love of Christ - "To deny the physical bodily resurrection of both Christ or the believer is a departure from the faith"
Marc Gibson
The AD 70 Doctrine Examined
- "We must oppose this doctrine as false and
damning to men's souls. It is complete mistreatment of God's holy
word and the promises we are to take hope in."
Mark Horne
Why Side with the Sadducees? - "To deny the bodily resurrection is to either deny salvation from sin or to deny that human death is a curse for sin. This is gnosticism, not Christianity."
Jesus-Messiah
Was Matthew 24 Fulfilled? - Refuting the Preterist Heresy |
Prophecy interpreted Messianic "The preterist heresy should be totally rejected even if it is called "partial preterist." We should expect for the conclusion of Jesus' prophecy concerning the casting down of the stones to be finalized at the end of the tribulation time period just before the second coming of Jesus." (New Covenant Messianic Judaism)
Matthew 10:23 and Pret Heresy
James Lloyd
Scoffers: Preterists and II Peter 3
"While the preterists love to quote verses that seem to show the New
Testament writers taught that they were in the last days at that
time, they almost universally avoid verse 3 of chapter 3 in II
Peter. "If you are abiding in preterism, you are
enveloped in a profound spiritual darkness that places you in the
soul destroying peril of following “another gospel.” If you are
abiding in pre-tribulationism, you are in a deadly delusion and
walking in such a spiritually wicked false doctrine that your path
is directly heading towards the lake of fire"
Parnell McCarter
The Heresy of Preterism -'Consistent preterism' is fundamentally flawed and dangerously heretical.
David Roth
Knowing the Love of Christ - "There is a heretical movement today that has gained some popularity which denies the future physical bodily resurrection of the believer. This movement is known by terms such as "full-Preterism" or "consistent Preterism" i.e. "heretical Preterism" or "hyper-Preterism."
Standard Bearer
Anathema of Preterism
Tim Stoudt
Topics of Concern Regarding Preterism - "Satan the source of Preterist doctrine.. This is a heavy statement. One is using strong words whenever he says about anyone that they have been taken captive by the devil and their actions are now actually accomplishing the devil's will. Yet, the context surrounding the passage leads us to apply this to the preterist in particular, as it was apparently meant for the preterists plaguing the early church in Paul's day. However, to those who may think this is a rather strong statement, does it not really provide the only reasonable explanation for a person hanging onto a doctrine with the characteristics discussed in the next section?"
Tribulation Forces
The Heresy of Preterism -'Consistent preterism' is fundamentally flawed and dangerously heretical.
Stephen Wiggins
Max Kingism: An Unkingly Heresy - "See? It's not new. But like a sassy, old woman prancing around in a miniskirt, King thinks he'll get some lookers if he can dude up his ancient heresy in chic garb of the 20th century. But we know better."
William H. Bell
Challenging Concepts Of The Resurrection - The resurrection of saints from hades and the change of the "living" as far as we know, was not perceivable to the physical eye.
The Illusion Of The Conclusion (A Look At Rom. 8:18-23) - To correctly use the figure of personification in Romans 8, it must emphasize, add to and confirm the deliverance of the creation in addition to that of the firstfruit saints for such is clearly stated and implied in the text.
A Boat Divided Against Itself Cannot Float - "Luke 17 links Noah with the fleeing event, all in the day when the Son of Man is revealed. A future coming of Christ that disregards these facts simply cannot be as it was in the days of Noah. "
Dr. Kelly Nelson Birks
"So Where's Your Proof?" -
"I fear that Christians who do not believe in the veracity of Christ's own teaching concerning his AD 70 parousia must also join Thomas in his unbelief as to his own failure to believe what others, outside of an independent corroboration, have testified to."
Thomas Burk
Refuting Endtime’s Flaw - "A Letter from Rightly Dividing the Word Ministry in Response to Endtime’s Statements Against Preterism"
David Chilton
Foreword to "What Happened in AD70?" - "In this slim volume, Edward E. Stevens clearly and convincingly demonstrates that our Lord Jesus Christ predicted His Return within the lifetime of His first-century hearers."
Michael Fenemore
A Respectful Challenge to the Worldwide Church of God
Ward Fenley
The Myth of 'Already but not yet' Theology - "most of those who deny dispensationalism would argue that we already have the kingdom but the physical aspect of the kingdom is not here yet. Where in the Old Testament does it ever say that when the kingdom comes it would be divided into an already but not yet? "
A Response to Zaspel's 'Already but not yet' Theology - "It is very clear that the prophets viewed one future kingdom that would be consummated when the time of Messiah would come. "
Honesty with the Scripture - "This is a letter to a dear friend of mine concerning the issue of viewing Scripture with honesty and integrity. He is a pretribulational premillennialist, pretty much what I used to be."
A Letter To My Dad Regarding the Teachings of J.N. Darby
David Green
A Response to With Unveiled Face - (With Unveiled Face is a 42-page booklet that was written in 1993 in response to Ed Stevens' article, Is It Consistent to Be a 'Partial Charismatic' Preterist?, which was published in the October-December, 1992 issue of Kingdom Counsel.)
Michael Krall
The PALTALK Adversaries of Preterism: What Are They Afraid Of? - "It is obvious that the reason they are afraid to debate on neutral ground -- and some even hide behind the false statement that they don't debate heresy -- is because they cannot respond to the timing texts and the issue of audience relevance. They think the nature of the resurrection is the big issue but none of them have as of yet taken the time to respond to any articles or answer questions that deal with the nature of the resurrection from a Preterist perspective. "
The Promise of a New Heavens and New Earth - When? - "claiming a double fulfillment does not solve this problem as to who this is that preceded the coming in of the new heavens and new earth. Timing has been established and claiming double fulfillment is mere speculation resulting from a preconceived notion that there must be a literal destroying and recreating of the cosmos."
What if Fulfilled Eschatology is Proved False? - "Those holding to fulfilled eschatology take the time factors in the New Testament such as "there are some standing here that will not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom" in Matthew 16:28 to be literal."
Richard MacPherson
If Christ Has Not Come "The Futurist needs to rethink everything, because under their belief we should be living under the Law of Moses still, to be consistent with scripture."
Don K. Preston
The "Time" Element in the Bible: A Rejoinder - "Wayne Jackson tries to prove what he calls "the elasticity of prophetic chronology." I believe he has seriously missed the truth in his article."
The Little Horn of Daniel's Sea Beast - "No identification of the little horn of Daniel 7 that lies outside of the days of the Roman empire is a valid interpretation."
Another Perspective - Revelation Date - "Our purpose here is to examine the evidence presented by the above mentioned writer and show the fallacy of the late date for Revelation. "
More On No Death, No Sorrow, No Pain - "To literalize means that the Old Covenant prophecies have not yet been fulfilled and Jesus taught that all prophecy had to be fulfilled before the Old Covenant could pass."
A Local Judgment? - "We find untenable the contention that the fall of Jerusalem was a localized judgment. It was in fact the universal judgment of the living and the dead!"
Jackson & Mello (Greek) - An examination of the "immanency factor" in Scripture through the writings of Jackson.
An Air Tight Argument? - The establishment of the kingdom in full power, glory, and maturity was not on Pentecost
Typology and Covenant Eschatology - It is demonstrated from Scripture that the fall of Jerusalem was indeed the antitype of the Flood.
Jack C. Scott Jr.
What Will They Do With Luke 17? - The next preacher you hear putting out these same old tired arguments on Matthew 24 ask him, "BUT WHAT DO YOU DO WITH LUKE 17?"
Sticking To The Issues?
- "I know of no one that genuinely holds to the Preterist view that does not want an open investigation and airing of these differences, although to read some of the more prominent detractors of this view, one could never get this idea."
A Troublesome Thorn -- But For Whom ? - "There is a tendency among those opposed to the Preterist view of eschatology (i.e., the doctrine of last things) to attempt to avoid the more cogent arguments employed by those who hold to the position."
Daniel T. Silvestri
Questions for Dispensationalists, Premillennialists, and other Futurists - "a brief exposition challenging the Biblical legitimacy of the currently popular "end times" prophetic scenarios surrounding the "second coming" of the Lord Jesus Christ."
Bruce Terry
Luke 17: A.D.70 or the Second Coming?
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Michael Adams
Michael Adams' Anti-Preterist Articles
- Matthew 24: The Achilles Heel of Full Preterism, Full Preterism and the
Lord's Supper - Questions for Full Preterists
Apocalypsis
A short introduction to Preterism. - "Some of you will have come across the word 'preterist' either through reading or on the web, probably from the Preterist Archive. This is a short introduction to explain what it is. I have used Todd Dennis's article "An Introduction to Preterism" for some of what follows."
Bands Report
The Great Falling Away Has Begun - "There's a movement in America today that is hell bent on destroying The Word of God Almighty by first fabricating, then spreading, utterly false doctrines., specifically designed to trap YOU as a Christian into questioning your faith. And to cause you to believe in your heart that God is a liar, through a professionally designed system of indoctrination...it is by far the greatest threat to Christianity ever."
The Naked Preterist - "Although there - is - no such word or term as "preterist" in any dictionary: The preterists could not have possibly chosen a better name for their demonic cult. "
Cephas Ministries
What is the Preterist View? "To realize that Preterism is not scriptural is to simply read the Book of Revelation, the last book in the Bible. We can't just leave that whole book out of Scripture as the Preterists would have to do to get around a future Second Coming."
J.R.C.
This Generation - Matthew 24 - "Very simply, until the word of God was completed (Col.1:25), one could not say to a certainty that a particular declaration of God's revealed will concerning things to come was also a declaration of His actual intention concerning things to come."
Mark Copeland
Response to "The AD 70 Doctrine Examined"
- "But even if one maintains his "faith" while holding to this doctrine, I
still believe his soul will be lost. Why? Because he has denied the one
"hope", which clearly includes the literal (read- fleshly) resurrection of
the body from the dead." Mal Couch
- President, Tyndale Seminary
The Fatal Mistakes
of Preterism - "While many Preterists are not liberal in
their overall theology, this movement leads to liberalism. If all the
language of Scripture pertaining to the Second Coming of Christ is not to be
taken historically and in a normal sense, then why not take the virgin birth
of Christ, for example, or other miracles in a "spiritualized" way, as the
Preterists do in reference to prophecy?"
Preterism and Exegetical Error
- "While the entire verse of
Acts 1:11 describes a literal taking up
of the Lord into heaven, how He comes again is the focus that is most
important. Notice how the disciples saw (“blepo”) visually His bodily
ascension, in like manner He will return—visually and literally. Concerning
that return the Greek text reads,"
The Fatal Mistakes of Preterism - President of Tyndale Seminary
"The Scofield Reference Bible had far greater impact on teaching and winning
the average man to Christ than can be imagined."
Melvin Curry
Was A.D.70 the End?
DOV Ministries
Absolute Refutation of Preterism - "Preterism serves no
useful purpose for preterists today except to refute the futurists. That is
a colossal waste of time. The preterists should devote all of their time to
sharing the Gospel with the lost, not trying to convert futurists,
historicists and others to their doctrine. Their false doctrine cannot edify
anyone or further the spread of the Gospel. It can only confuse and hinder
the spread of the Gospel and cause dissension within the body of YAHSHUA
(Gal. 5.20)."
Preterist Rapture Challenge -
"If you believe that the Rapture took place in 70 A.D. at the alleged Second
Advent of YAHSHUA IMMANUEL YAHWEH of Nazareth the Mashiyach (a.k.a. Jesus
Christ) please take this challenge." Rusty Entrekin
A Scriptural Critique of Full Preterism in Light of Matthew 24 and Related Passages "there is insufficient reason to claim that the words of Jesus in Matthew 24 were intended for the 12 disciples only, or that all of these words had to find fulfillment in their lifetimes. As we read this passage, it is therefore important that we keep in mind that Jesus may be speaking to all believers, not just to his disciples."
Their Flesh Rests In Hope - The Apostolic Fathers and Early Apologists Looked Forward to the Resurrection of the Flesh
Examining the Logical Foundations of Preterism - "I believe that the evangelism of the cities of Israel was interrupted by the war associated with 70 AD, and is still not complete. To prove otherwise, you would have to provide historical evidence that the gospel has been thoroughly proclaimed in each city by born again, evangelical church planters."
Joey Faust
Forgy - Faust
John Noe's Preterism Refuted
David Friedman
Does I Corinthians 15 teach a physical or spiritual resurrection?
Robert L. Garringer
How to Read a Prophetic Time Clock |
Response to Noe's Seven Evidences
| A Counter-Response to Noe's Response |
Noe's Example of Radical Symbolism
Tony Garland
Revelation 1:7: Past or Future? - "John wrote that "every eye will see Him" and that "all the tribes of the earth will mourn" when He appears. Did Jesus "appear" to the Jewish tribes at the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70 as preterism maintains? Or are there reasons for understanding this passage to teach a future event of world-wide impact? Thankfully, we need not be overly concerned about the persistence of preterism because the plain meaning of the Biblical text stands opposed to its foundational teachings." |
Preterism "Full or consistent preterism
is heterodox."
Marc Gibson
The AD 70 Doctrine Examined
- "We must oppose this doctrine as false and
damning to men's souls. It is complete mistreatment of God's holy word and the
promises we are to take hope in."
Bill Grimes
"All That Are in the Graves Shall Come Forth" - "Why the Resurrection Spoken of in John 5:28-29 Can Only Refer to Actual Bodies Coming Out of The Graves"
Four Biblical Reasons Why AD70 Cannot be the Second Parousia of Jesus - "the AD70 sack of Jerusalem was strictly a local judgment on that generation of Jews for the following reasons."
A Letter to a Full Preterist - "In reading the above passages that I have quoted to you and others the “particulars of the words” lead me to believe that they are to be taken literally. History teaches us that Jesus’ words in Matthew 24:1-35 were fulfilled quite literally in the cloud judgment that fell upon Jerusalem and Israel in AD70 at the hands of the Romans. This fact encourages me, because I know that when the Second Parousia does come, it will come in the same fashion as Jesus and the Apostles described it."
Matthew 16:28 A Time Statement for What? - "Evil still thrives. Just look around you. You see diseases, death, murder, economic oppression, genocide, hate, pride, fornication, adultery, etc. The list goes on and on. In 2 Peter 3, Simon Peter compares the future destruction of this world by fire to the worldwide flood of Noah. God destroyed all evil by a flood of real, wet water. He will destroy it again by a real, hot fire. It is contrary to God’s holiness for Him to allow evil to persist forever, which is what full Preterists are suggesting. "
Jots, Tittles, and the Kingdom of Heaven - "So, are we in the new heavens and the new earth? No, for the reasons I have stated in my most recent article,
A Letter to a Full Preterist. If not, is it true that not one jot or tittle has passed from the law? Yes, God’s word stands forever. None of God’s Word will fail or pass away.Is the Old Covenant Law still binding then in every jot and tittle? If not, why not? No, because Jesus finished the work which He came to do."
Mark Horne
Why Side with the Sadducees? - "To deny the bodily resurrection is to either deny salvation from sin or to deny that human death is a curse for sin. This is gnosticism, not Christianity."
Tommy Ice
Self-Fulfilling Prophecy - Pre-Trib Research Center "Full
Preterists John Anderson and Don Preston regularly have scare
programs on the dangers of dispensationalism on their daily
radio program that can be heard on the Internet at the
following: Listen to John Anderson's "Voice
of Reason" program.. for this kind of rhetoric."
Kenneth Kirkland
The Past-Trib Blasphemy - "To the preterists, its ALL IN THE PAST! Whoopee! Now, then…with dread out of the way, let’s have REVIVAL! How wonderful. More accurately, how insidious." A Closer look at Past-trib
Parnell McCarter
The Heresy of Preterism -'Consistent preterism' is fundamentally flawed and dangerously heretical.
Matthew 24 is NOT for the church | Articles - Showing the Consequences of Pre-trib dispensational theology
Defending against Preterism - "Preterists maintain that the events of Revelation were fulfilled by AD70. For this to be true they maintain that the book of Revelation was written in 66-68 AD and they do some interesting tricks to try to make people believe it was. The common school of thought is that Revelation was written around 95AD which brings the Preterist point of view to a grinding halt."
Why Preterism is Erroneous "What I can’t comprehend is how they feel this way. For preterists the prophecies of the Old Testament were PHYSICALLY fulfilled and can be realized literally from how the prophecies were written. That being said however they believe prophecies of the New Testament were fulfilled spiritually and anyone who tries to understand the prophetic verses of the New Testament literally, as they are written are wrong, misled and borderline blasphemous."
A Critique of "The Beast of Revelation," and "Before Jerusalem Fell" |
Historicist vs. Preterist Debate | Parnell McCarter Response to Charges |
A Response to "Full Preterism" |
Preterism Refuted - The Historicism Research Foundation |
Non-Preteristic Biblical Historicism (PDF File)
Narrow Way
Preterism: Clear and Present Danger! "Its venom is spreading rapidly with those who find it hard to persevere and endure sound doctrine."
Nearing Midnight Ministries
Preterism! I Can't Believe It
"What is preterism? This theory argues that all Bible prophecy has been fulfilled; nothing remains on the prophetic calendar. Events like the rise of Antichrist, the tribulation, the rapture, and the Day of the Lord all took place around 70 AD - the year the Roman's invaded Jerusalem and destroyed the second Temple. I just cannot understand how anyone can follow a preterist line of thinking in the light of current world events. I've largely ignored preterism because I see as equivalent to the Flat Earth Society.
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Bob Passantino
Did We Miss The End? - "Seraiah earned a Master of Divinity degree from Reformed Theological Seminary in Orlando, Florida. He is a postmillennial preterist, making his criticisms of pantelism all the more weighty. As such, he is well within orthodox Christian belief, and his views find company with contemporary authors such as R. C. Sproul and Gary DeMar, as well as some prominent theologians throughout church history. A careful examination of his book leaves readers with a clear understanding of orthodox preterism and of why pantelism should be rejected as an aberrant approach to comprehending Scripture."
Steven Pegler
Answering Preterism: Did Jesus Return in A.D.70? "So, is preterism a heresy? Can it exist with historical Christianity? Full-blown preterism probably is a heresy, although the verdict may still be out. All parties should admit that a full preterism is not compatible with the Creeds and Confessions. To go against the Creeds and Confessions is not damning or indicative of heresy in of itself, but it should raise many cautions. Preterists need to admit that they are advocating an almost total rewrite of not only eschatology (cosmic and personal) but also ecclesiology, sanctification, and many other doctrines. It is literally a different kind of Christianity and is incompatible with historical Christianity. This makes full-fledged preterism highly suspicious, but not heretical if it can be demonstrated that it is Scriptural. "
Stanley Phillips
A Refutation of Preterism: Second Peter, Chapter 3 - "With the advent of the Internet, the preterists' view of eschatology (last times) has taken on an organized, consistent, and evangelical nature. Heretofore, elements of the system were scattered, and most often incoherent. But today, it has evolved into a very subtle, coherent, and well-defined system of theology.
Interestingly, some preterists refer to their theological position as "fulfilled eschatology." One finds this in literature offered on the Internet, but the term is a synonym to preterism. But, while stating that their position is that all the prophecies of end times were fulfilled in a.d. 70, there is at least one that is now being fulfilled. And this one is the rise of preterism
itself in the last day."
Joe Price
The Second Coming of Christ: Did it Already Occur? - "Why has 70 A.D. been made such a focal point in this false doctrine? While several answers could be offered which address this question, I submit that the underlying reason for this doctrinal error rests upon a perverted interpretation of the allegory found in Galatians 4:21-31. In this allegory, the A.D. 70 advocate believes that he finds comfort and support for his doctrine. Instead, he finds a refutation of it! "
Buff Scott
The 70 A.D. Doctrine
Ed Tarkowski
The Early Church Fathers: No Preterist Resurrection
- "During the first 400 years of the early Church
after 70 A.D., the Fathers defended the truth of a future, bodily
resurrection. None of them stated otherwise, nor did they refute others that
it had already occurred. For 1900 years, the Church has believed in a future
resurrection from the dead at the glorious, visible, in-the-sky return of
Jesus Christ when every eye will see Him personally. "
Prophecy Truth
Biblical Proof for an End Times Seven Year period - "There was no mark of the beast system (666), where if a person refused the mark, they couldn't buy or sell. Finally, the Second Coming visibly did not take place 1290 days after the destruction in 70 AD. The Roman armies continued their dominance for hundreds of years. The people of the earth were not judged visibly standing before the Messiah. And Isaiah 65 was not fulfilled where people's lifespans increased so much, that a youth would die at the age of one hundred years. Only a foolish person would believe or teach that 70 AD fulfilled all the prophecies."
Bill Reeves
The Preterist View Heresy
"About a year ago Brother Max King, of Warren, Ohio, came out with his new book,
entitled The Spirit Of Prophecy, advocating a Preterist-View of prophecy. This
teaching has caused a mild furor among the liberal brethren wherever it has had
a hearing. The following series of articles will review this novel doctrine, as
set forth in a series of lectures by King before the Brookwood Way church of
Christ, Mansfield, Ohio, in the summer of ‘70, in several presentations which he
and C. D. Beagle made before groups of liberal preachers last year (‘71) (and
also recorded), and in King’s book."
John J. Reilly
Book Review: Beyond the End Times
Preterism
Jay Rogers
Christianity and the Cults "Although not a large group, Hymanaeism is a grave threat to biblical orthodoxy. Hymenaeism is a primary heresy, far more serious than Chiliasm or dispensationalism, as it completely denies one of the essential tenets of the Apostles and Nicene Creeds, that Christ will come again, physically to the earth, to judge the living and the dead"
Bob Ross
Was ANY Prophecy Fulfilled in AD 70?- "For A. D. 70 to be a fulfillment of Matthew 24, it would necessarily mean that it is also the fulfillment of Daniel 11 [see Matthew 24:15], yet there is simply NO Scriptural correlation that can be made between Daniel 11 and the events of A. D. 70."
"Preterist Prophetic Phantasyland"
The Jewish Origins of Preterism
The Historical Background of Modern Preterism - "there have been some elements of preterism presented in the various and multitudinous writings by all schools of prophetic studies"
Preterist Pranksters Practice Prophetic Perfidy Pertaining to Prophetic Pronouncements by Spurgeon
David Roth
Knowing the Love of Christ - "There is a heretical movement today that has gained some popularity which denies the future physical bodily resurrection of the believer. This movement is known by terms such as "full-preterism" or "consistent preterism" i.e. "heretical preterism" or "hyper-preterism."
Louis Ruggiero
Refuting Full Preterism - "Like any other cult such as the Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses, Full Preterists feed on those who are unlearned and untaught. Indoctrination can be a terrible thing, and when one becomes indoctrinated into the precept of men, escaping its bondage can become unbearably difficult. " "Full Preterism is an empty doctrine, which offers no hope of a better life and a better future. It tears away at God's promise to the world of everlasting peace and tranquility that will be accomplished at Jesus' Second Coming. If Jesus came in 70 AD as the Full Preterists claim, He didn't do a very good job establishing world peace"
Gene Shaparenko
Preterism... the Church's Final Apostacy
"Preterists have an uncontrollable penchant for parsing various scriptural words
and phrases, relying on what they believe are relevant greek or latin
translations which support a prior assumption. Former President Bill Clinton was
a master of this parsing process in his evasive testimony regarding his
fornication activities in the White House and other locations. Preterists don't
seem to be able to grasp the entirety of the Holy Scriptures, rather looking for
isolated proof texts upon which to create an entirely new Gospel and
eschatology."
John Shepard
Problems with Full Preterism - "But in full preterism, the end is 70 A.D. so the resurrection is no longer considered to be a physical, material, bodily resurrection, but becomes a spiritual event. And what about believers who die after 70 A.D.? How do they participate in the resurrection? In my opinion, these verses are fatal to the full preterist position."
Standard Bearer
Timely Questions About Preterism - "preterism strips us of salvation" ; "grievous heresy"
John Stevenson
Why I am Not a Preterist "But such an interpretation would demand that the Jews who suffered through the A.D. 70 event would have recognized that their sufferings were a punishment for their treatment of Jesus since the prophecy is not merely that they would mourn, but that they would mourn "over Him." Just as there is no evidence that anyone in the church ever recognized the fall of Jerusalem as the return of Jesus, so also there is a complete absence of evidence that the Jews ever recognized the coming of Jesus in those events."
Tim Stoudt
Topics of Concern Regarding Preterism - "Satan the source of Preterist doctrine..Although the doctrine seems strange from a conventional viewpoint, it has recently acquired a number of adherents."
David B. Updegraff
Old Corn: Or, Sermons and Addresses on the Spiritual Life
(1892) "THE effort to make people believe that the
promised parousia [coming] of our Lord took place at the "destruction of
Jerusalem" tends to mislead souls, blot out the Christian's hope, and destroy
the value of Scripture as a definite testimony to anything." (p. 278)
Engbert Vander Werff
Did the Lord Return in 70 A.D.? -
"70 AD'ers accept the claim by modernists that our Lord and His Apostles expected the world to end in the lst century-here they have entered on a wrong and dangerous track!"
Reply to Kingdom Counsel
Jack Van Impe
6/19/2 Attack on Preterism "Preterism
is sweeping in the evangelical churches"
Jack's 2002 Refutation of Preterism |
9/21/2 Attack on Preterism "I believe they are the ignorant brethren of First Thessalonians 4:13."
July 17 - Commenting on The 9.5 Theses
(RealMedia) "I received a letter from one of the leaders this week,
and they had the 9.5 Theses, and it was soooo pathetic. I do not know of one
name on the list that is one of the great scholars of the day, but this thing is
infiltrating our churches. How could every prophecy, and this is called
PRUTERISM (sic), have been fulfilled by 70 AD? And therefore meaning that there
is nothing left. Everything happened over 1,930 years ago. I am going to deal
with this more next week, so let others know to tune in and I will be devoting
most of the program to the subject, so let the people know."
Vurel Vick
The Second Coming of Christ: Did it Occur in A.D.70? "It is difficult to see how anyone can say that the resurrection is passed, and that there will be no resurrection of the dead from their graves. Every where people continue to die. There are thousands and tens of thousands of graves every where you look, and so it is evident that the resurrection has not come, and that death has not been destroyed."
Bill Lee Warner
Did Jesus Already Return in AD70? - "The phrase "this generation", as used by Jesus in
Matthew 24:34, clearly is not the generation of people living when He first gave the Olivet teaching."
Steve Wohlberg
Preterism's "Proof Text" Analyzed - "Thus when Preterists argue that "all these things" INCLUDE the Second Coming and must have occurred in 70 AD, they are not sticking closely enough to the actual words of Jesus Christ. The truth is, "all these things" (relating to the destruction of the temple) did occur in 70 AD before that generation passed, just like Jesus Christ said."
Alan Yusko
Preterism, Another Prophetic Deception - "To be honest I've never given Preterism much thought. I've always felt it was a totally crazy position with very few followers. Therefore, as I rule, I have ignored this prophetic view. Preterism is nothing more than satanic deception, Scripture twisting, and wrongly dividing God's prophetic Word. These people will quote and misquote Scripture as good as any Jehovah Witness to teach about their error. Be warned and remove your self from such deception. "
Fred Zaspel
Preterism and Biblical Prophecy - Was all prophecy fulfilled?
"This flaw is evident in Preterism's understanding of the NT teaching that Jesus / the Kingdom will come "soon." This was Albert Schweitzer's observation, and it led him to conclude that Jesus was sadly mistaken. But does the NT lead us in this way? It does indeed announce that the Kingdom is "near" (eggizo; e.g., Mk.1:15). But it also makes the bold announcement of the presence of the Kingdom. In Jesus the Kingdom has not only "come near"; it has come (ephthasen, Mat.12:28; cf., 11:11ff; Lk.17:21). Curiously, the preterist loves to emphasize the nearness of the Kingdom in the teaching of Jesus. But the problem is more difficult than that: Jesus taught not only that the Kingdom was near, but that it had come."
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