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Matthew 26:64 is NOT a "Preterist Time Indicator" Pointing to AD70 "In short, the usage of "Apo Arti" in Matthew 26:64 [Apo ("from" - Strongs 575) and Arti ("now on" - Strong's 737)] is highly suggestive of the themes that have been previously offered at this blog ; that is, a series of revelatory recognitions of the power and glory of Jesus Christ's dominance by friend and foe alike. Though the typically pret-friendly Weymouth translation would like to make Jesus say "later on, you will see.." this is not really honest. I would rather say that it was simply a mistake, but I find it impossible to believe that neither Richard Francis Weymouth ("If this belief ever obtains general acceptance the earlier date of the Apocalypse will also be regarded as fully established. For it will then be seen that the book describes beforehand events which took place in 70 A.D.") nor Earnest Hampden-Cook (co-editor and author of "The Christ Has Come") were aware of how important (ironically) a futurist spin on this passage is to uphold their Preterist assumptions. However, not only is there no sense of futurity in this very emphatic Greek phrase, but rather we see quite the opposite.
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This page is being designed for those who are determined to continue advancing their Berean studies beyond the confines of anyone else' particular doctrinal system. The approach will be specifically geared for the many disgruntled full preterists, who were convinced that they had found the ultimate answer, but now are not so sure. There is much more Truth available than full preterism can offer... and rest assured that you will not have to retreat into any previously investigated views in order to move forward. When I was a Dispensationalist, I was shocked to learn that there were other forms of Premillennialism I could move into -- even though at that time the idea of leaving the overarching system altogether was completely unknown. Once it became clear that I could more forward out of that entire system, then I was freed from all the chains in which that method had put me. Such is the idea with this page -- showing sincere students that they can, indeed, march farther ahead, without having to turn around to previously taken ground. The materials contained on this page are collected in hopes that those who cannot see any better alternative than Full Preterism might recognize that there is a whole horizon of studies in a progressive -- and not regressive -- direction. All important hybrids and neo-pret versions will eventually be considered here. |
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"Having once held the untenable position of a futurist, of mythical gaps in time frames, stopped clocks, a future tribulation etc, one cannot return to plausible falsehood. " David Hume
"I sometimes wish that I never learned Preterism or any other such end time gibberish. Post trib, Pre trib, away with it all. There is no value in it but to side track us all from the true intention, Jesus Christ and Him crucified. Preterist I am, but I want to leave this behind me and press on to the high calling of God in Christ Jesus. If something is in the past, why don't we stop talking about it and move on, Old thing are past away behold all things are become new." ("Karl")
LATEST ADDITION
12/7/7:
Pretblogging: Cautioning Preterism - "I believe that this value for chronological fidelity is one that should be taken seriously and would do much to dispel much extravagant thinking within eschatology, as well as to enrich our understanding of history. However, I think many who support it have adopted an unfortunate and unnatural prophetic reductionism that makes the prophetic portraits of Scripture feel like wearing one’s high school pants – too tight and too restrictive. I contend that genre of language found in places like the Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation allows for a more flexible reading of chronological markers (e.g., “this generation” “the time is near”), and in fact requires a qualified exception of the interpretive rule which says that the right interpretation is the one the audience would have understood."
PROGRESSIVE HERMENEUTICS
Can God's Grand Redemptive Plan Really Be Reduced to the a single generation and a single city? Would you do that with the Cross of Christ, likewise a historical event in a particular generation and city ? Here are compelling reasons why the simplistic approach to time texts and revelations may be pointing in the wrong direction
12/7/7: Cautioning Preterism - "I believe that this value for chronological fidelity is one that should be taken seriously and would do much to dispel much extravagant thinking within eschatology, as well as to enrich our understanding of history. However, I think many who support it have adopted an unfortunate and unnatural prophetic reductionism that makes the prophetic portraits of Scripture feel like wearing one’s high school pants – too tight and too restrictive. I contend that genre of language found in places like the Olivet Discourse and the book of Revelation allows for a more flexible reading of chronological markers (e.g., “this generation” “the time is near”), and in fact requires a qualified exception of the interpretive rule which says that the right interpretation is the one the audience would have understood."
HISTORICAL-TYPOLOGICAL METHOD
Charles Homer Giblin "In effect, Luke's lesson apropos of his account of Jerusalem's destruction is to be construed as a question prompted in the typed reader's mind: If this is what happened to Jerusalem because of the way Jesus and those who represent him, his disciples, were treated, what will happen to my city/nation/society if he (and his followers, who stand for him) are treated similarly? What am I, as a respected man with some influence, expected to do?"
Peter J. Leithart: ""[T]ropologically, the history of Jerusalem can be understood as a model for the history of the soul (secundum tropologiam). Just as David conquered Jerusalem and set up the Lord's throne there, so Jesus, His Son, conquers the inner city of the sinner and consecrates him as a saint, a holy one." (Peter Leithart, Ascent to Love, pp. 22)
Jonathan Edwards : Folly of Looking Back in Fleeing Out of Sodom "Jerusalem was like Sodom, in that it was devoted to destruction by special divine wrath; and indeed to a more terrible destruction than that of Sodom. Therefore the like direction is given concerning fleeing out of it with the utmost haste, without looking behind, as the angel gave to Lot, when he bid him flee out of Sodom. If it be inquired why Christ gave this direction to his people to flee out of Jerusalem, in such exceeding haste, at the first notice of the signal of her approaching destruction; I answer, it seems to be, because fleeing out of Jerusalem was a type of fleeing out of a state of sin. Escaping out of that unbelieving city typified an escape out of a state of unbelief. Therefore they were directed to flee without staying to take anything out of their houses, to signify with what haste and concern we should flee out of a natural condition, that no respect to any worldly enjoyment should prevent us one moment, and that we should flee to Jesus Christ, the refuge of souls, our strong rock, and the mount of our defense, so as, in fleeing to him, to leave and forsake heartily all earthly things."
INVESTIGATING ALTERNATIVE SYSTEMS
Idealist-Preterism (John Noe)
Preterist-Idealism (Todd Dennis)
Without trying to present this complete system of progressive preterist theology here, as is done at the Preterist-Idealism Study Archive, I'd like to simply present some of the more important concepts which inform that system, and show how the old assumptions of full preterism fail to take into account an entire realm of interpretation of Bible prophecy.
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