Mike Sullivan: Isaiah 65 and Unfulfilled Prophecy (1999) PreteristArchive.com, The Internet's Only Balanced Look at Preterism

DISTINCTLY HYPER PRET POSITIONS IN THIS ARTICLE:

"The Second and Only Coming of Jesus in AD70"
The post AD70 world is the "age about to come, the everlasting Covenant"
The New Covenant age began in AD70
The Adamic Curse ended in AD70 for all creation
Sin ended in AD70
Death ended in AD70
Redemption came in AD70
Glorification came in AD70
Weeping ended in AD70
Times of the Gentiles ended in AD70
Prior to AD70 Christians went to Hades
After AD70 Hell is no more
After AD70 there is no more labor, or pains, persecutions, groanings, etc.
September 10, AD70 saw the birth of the heavenly Jerusalem nation
The “first” heavens and earth passed away in AD70
The "new" heavens and earth came globally in AD70

Systematic Hyper Preterism
(aka "Full Preterism")

Study Archive

Jesus: "It is finished" (AD30)
cf. Hebrews 10:19-22

SOME DISTINCTIVE DOCTRINES OF SYSTEMATIZED HYPER PRETERISM

It is important to keep in mind that many ideas and doctrines full preterism appeals to - such as the complete end of the Old Covenant world in AD70 - are by no means distinctive to that view. Many non HyPs believe this as well, so one need not embrace the Hyper Preterist system in order to endorse this view. Following are exceptional doctrines which, so far as I've seen, are only taught by adherents of Hyper Preterism.:

DISTINCTIVE DOCTRINES TAUGHT BY STANDARD FULL PRETERISM

All Bible Prophecy was Fulfilled By AD70
Atonement Incomplete at Cross ; Complete at AD70
The Supernatural Power of Evil Ended in AD70
The Spirit of Antichrist was Destroyed in AD70
"The Consummation of the Ages" Came in AD70
"The Millennium" is in the Past, From AD30 to AD70
Nothing to be Resurrected From in Post AD70 World ; Hades Destroyed
The Christian Age Began in AD70 ; Earth Will Never End
"The Day of the Lord" was Israel's Destruction ending in AD70
The "Second Coming" of Jesus Christ Took Place in AD70-ish
The Great Judgment took place in AD70 ; No Future Judgment
The Law, Death, Sin, Devil, Hades, etc. Utterly Defeated in AD70
"The Resurrection" of the Dead and Living is Past, Having Taken Place in AD70
The Context of the Entire Bible is Pre-AD70 ; Not Written To Post AD70 World

DISTINCTIVE DOCTRINES TAUGHT BY VARIOUS FORMS
(under construction)

Baptism was for Pre-AD70 Era (Cessationism)
The Lord's Prayer was for Pre-AD70 Era (Cessationism)
The Lord's Supper was for Pre-AD70 Era (Cessationism)
The Holy Spirit's Paraclete Work Ceased in AD70 (Cessationism)
The Consummation in AD70 Caused Church Offices to Cease (Cessationism)
The Resurrection in AD70 Changed the "Constitutional Principle" of Marriage (Noyesism)
Israel and Humanity Delivered into Ultimate Liberty in AD70 (TransmillennialismTM)
The Judgment in AD70 Reconciled All of Mankind to God ; All Saved (Preterist Universalism)
Adam's Sin No Longer Imputed in Post AD70 World ; No Need to be Born Again (Preterist Universalism)
When Jesus Delivered the Kingdom to the Father in AD70, He Ceased Being The Intermediary (Pantelism/Comprehensive Grace?)
The Book of Genesis is an Apocalypse; is About Creation of First Covenant Man, not First Historical Man (Covenantal Preterism)

The Truth About Isaiah 65

By Michael Sullivan
(2009)

"the healing of the nations is taking place, and it won’t be realized in any “ongoing fulfillment in the gradual effects of creation”

ARTICLE REMOVED AT AUTHOR'S REQUEST
"I'm not interested in supporting your pride and cowardly agenda."

12/2009: Sam Frost changes his Isaiah 65 theology: "With that stated, and with a now firm conviction that Isaiah 65 has been entirely fulfilled (thanks Mike, Dave), I still see no logical reason for the extension of the effects of fulfillment (and neither do they) in the here and now in terms of bettering our world, our environment, and our heritage and goverments." http://preterismdebate.ning.com/profiles/blogs/eclectic-preterism?xg_source=activity

Sam Frost's Original Article About Isaiah 65 / Sam's Early Response to this Article: "It is interesting that preterists use this passage to argue, on one hand, that "death" still continues in the Age to come, as well as sinners and the like (literally), then turn around and spiritualize much of the passage. It seems to me, that BOTH literal aspects and spiritual aspects are contained in the passage."

Fair Use Excerpts:

God’s creation and maturing of His new heavens and new earth arrived with the imminent return of Christ to end the “last days” of the old covenant age in AD 70 - according to (2 Peter 3 – being a “reminder” of 1 Peter 1:4-12; 4:5-7, 17 and Revelation 21-22: 6-7, 10-12, 20). This is when the curse of the Adamic and Mosaic “the law,” “the sin,” and “the death,” creation was “about to be” completely removed for the Church (Romans 5-8)..

Again, this redemption and glorification of the creation (cf. Romans 8) was “about to” take place in AD 70. There is no more weeping, because God’s people have been forgiven of their sins. For all Partial Preterists and even some “Full Preterists,” this is a “Gnostic” and a shallow view of the passage...

Under the OC everything was temporal and subject to being taken over by the times of the Gentiles. Under the (post AD70 - TD) NC, this building, planting, and fruit are likewise equivalent to the spiritual “Jerusalem” and spiritual “new heavens and new earth” previously discussed. The “building,” “dwelling,” “planting of vineyards,” and “eating of fruit,” here are produced in the laboring of the gospel and the fruit it produces within the believer and the Church/Jerusalem/New Creation. They enjoy long the works of their hands, because after they die they do not go to a waiting place, but “their works do follow them” (cf. Rev. 14:13).,

Beloved, do not be deceived, (Sam Frost's theology - TD) is not biblical “preterism” rightly being taught concerning the timing and nature of God’s completed redemptive plan for man that many of us have come to know and love. It is carnal futurism both in the timing and nature of fulfillment – plain and simple.

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