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"Magdalen Papyrus"
P64
History of the Magdalen Fragments
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Papyrology |
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The Dating of the Magdalen Papyrus |
Jesus, Man
or Myth?
"The problem is, this upsets the whole theological establishment."
--Ulrich Victor, Humboldt University, Germany
"New Testament scholarship may be revolutionized by three old scraps of
papyrus no bigger than postage stamps."
--Richard N. Ostling, Time
"One fellow of Magdalen [College, Oxford] said the discovery made the
hairs stand up on the back of his neck."
--Julia Llewellyn Smith, The Times of London
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In memoriam
CARSTEN PETER THIEDE
(1952-2004)
German biblical
scholar from the 20th century, best known for his textual criticism
of the Dead Sea Scrolls, including the hopeful identification of the
7Q5 papyrus as a fragment of the Gospel of Mark. Thiede was an
advocate for O’Callaghan’s claims that numerous portions of the
Qumran scrolls from Cave 7 are actually Christian New Testament
texts from pre AD 70. The adduced texts are very fragmentary and
ambiguous, and mainstream scholars have not agreed. In
December 1994, Thiede's redating of the Magdalen papyrus, which
bears a fragment in Greek of the Gospel of Matthew, to the later 1st
century on palaeographical grounds provoked much debate. In
his book Jesus, Man or Myth?, Professor Thiede sought to
present to the serious reader, anxious to make his or her way
through the blizzard of differing views and judgments currently in
circulation regarding the person of Jesus and the origins of
Christianity, with a convincing account of the reality of the man,
and of the trustworthiness of the sources upon which we have to
depend for our primary information.
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EYEWITNESS TO JESUS
AMAZING NEW MANUSCRIPT EVIDENCE ABOUT THE
ORIGIN OF THE GOSPELS
Dr. Carsten Peter Thiede and
Matthew D'Ancona |
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"Redates to
roughly 60 CE three papyrus fragments of the Gospel of Matthew"
7Q5 - Earliest NT Papyrus Fragment - Gospel
of Mark
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The Tetragrammaton and the Christian Greek
Scriptures - Appendix L (PDF)
Christmas Eve 1994 would have come and gone like any other, had it not been
for three tiny papyrus fragments discussed in The Times of London's
sensational front-page story. The avalanche of letters to the editor jarred
the world into realizing that Matthew d'Ancona's story was as big as the
discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The flood of calls received by Dr.
Carsten Peter Thiede, the scholar behind the story, and the international
controversy that spread like wildfire, give us an inkling as to why the
Magdalen Papyrus has embroiled Christianity in a high-stakes tug-of-war over
the Bible.
Thiede and d'Ancona boldly tell the story of two scholars a century apart
who stumbled on the oldest known remains of the New Testament--hard evidence
confirming that St. Matthew's Gospel is the account of an eyewitness to
Jesus. It starts in 1901 when the Reverend Charles B. Huleatt acquires three
pieces of a manuscript on the murky antiquities market of Luxor, Egypt. He
donates the papyrus fragments to his alma mater, Magdalen College in Oxford,
England, where they are kept in a butterfly display case, along with Oscar
Wilde's ring. For nearly a century, visitors hardly notice the Matthew
fragments, initially dated to a.d.180-200; but after Dr. Thiede redates them
to roughly a.d. 60, people flock to the library wanting to behold a
first-century copy of the Gospel.
But what is all the fuss about? How can three ancient papyrus fragments be
so significant? How did Thiede arrive at this radical early dating? And what
does it mean to the average Christian? Now we have authoritative answers to
these pivotal questions. Indeed, the Magdalen Papyrus corroborates the
tradition that St. Matthew actually wrote the Gospel bearing his name, that
he wrote it within a generation of Jesus' death, and that the Gospel stories
about Jesus are true. Some will vehemently deny Thiede's claims, others will
embrace them, but nobody can ignore Eyewitness to Jesus.
FROM THE PUBLISHER
"Christmas Eve 1994 would have come and gone like any other, had it not been
for three tiny papyrus fragments discussed in The Times of London's
sensational front-page story. The avalanche of letters to the editor jarred
the world into realizing that Matthew d'Ancona's story was as big as the
discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The flood of calls received by Dr.
Carsten Peter Thiede, the scholar behind the story, and the international
controversy that spread like wildfire, give us an inkling as to why the
Magdalen Papyrus has embroiled Christianity in a high-stakes tug-of-war over
the Bible.
Thiede and d'Ancona boldly tell the story of two scholars a century apart
who stumbled on the oldest known remains of the New Testament--hard evidence
confirming that St. Matthew's Gospel is the account of an eyewitness to
Jesus. It starts in 1901 when the Reverend Charles B. Huleatt acquires three
pieces of a manuscript on the murky antiquities market of Luxor, Egypt. He
donates the papyrus fragments to his alma mater, Magdalen College in Oxford,
England, where they are kept in a butterfly display case, along with Oscar
Wilde's ring. For nearly a century, visitors hardly notice the Matthew
fragments, initially dated to a.d.180-200; but after Dr. Thiede redates them
to roughly a.d. 60, people flock to the library wanting to behold a
first-century copy of the Gospel.
But what is all the fuss about? How can three ancient papyrus fragments be
so significant? How did Thiede arrive at this radical early dating? And what
does it mean to the average Christian? Now we have authoritative answers to
these pivotal questions. Indeed, the Magdalen Papyrus corroborates the
tradition that St. Matthew actually wrote the Gospel bearing his name, that
he wrote it within a generation of Jesus' death, and that the Gospel stories
about Jesus are true. Some will vehemently deny Thiede's claims, others will
embrace them, but nobody can ignore Eyewitness to Jesus." (From the Publisher)
WHAT OTHERS ARE SAYING
Bob Passantino
"Time and careful scholarship
will tell whether Thiede's redating is sound. If it is (and the more I
study the issue, the more confidence I have in Thiede), we will have
valuable affirmation of the eyewitness nature of the Gospel records, the
uninterrupted and unchanging preservation of those testimonies, and our
twentieth-century inheritance of "the faith that God has once for all
entrusted to the saints" (Jude 3) by those who "did not follow cleverly
invented stories," but "were eyewitnesses of his majesty" (2 Pet. 1:16)."
Book Review: Eyewitness to Jesus
(PDF)
Publishers Weekly
"How reliable are the Gospel accounts on which Christianity bases its
knowledge of the life and work of Jesus of Nazareth? Are they eyewitness
accounts written by followers of Jesus? Or are they accounts written long
after his death by Christians concerned with a new doctrine?"
These and other
questions were thrown into sharp relief when, on Christmas Eve 1994, Times of
London writer D'Ancona reported that a German scholar, Carsten Peter Thiede,
using the new science of papyrology, had redated to roughly 60 CE three
papyrus fragments of the Gospel of Matthew, held in Oxford's Magdalen
College Library since 1901.
The most far-reaching implication of Thiede's
work is that the Gospel of Matthew, in addition to being the earliest Gospel
written, could be an eyewitness. D'Ancona and Thiede detail the forensic
science used to redate the Magdalen papyri. Thiede then challenges the
critical methods - historical and textual - that have been used by scholars to
establish the traditional dating of the Gospels." (Publishers Weekly)
Library Journal
"D'Ancona, an assistant editor at the London Times, and Thiede, the noted
papyrologist, offer their side of a raging controversy over Thiede's claim
to have identified a Greek fragment of the Gospel of Mark from the Dead Sea
Scrolls written no later than 68 A.D. and to have redated fragments of the
Gospel of Matthew to not much later. If the early dating and other evidence
cited and deduced are sustained, they will demolish some of the major tenets
of liberal critical New Testament scholarship by establishing that at least
Mark and Matthew were written by eyewitnesses or contemporaries within a
Christianity that was well developed and separate from Judaism before the
destruction of Jerusalem. Thiede mounts a scathing criticism of New
Testament scholars. Although the book is a window into the value,
possibilities, and methods of an arcane specialty, it is written in a
conversational prose accessible to any educated nonspecialist. Much
background information on New Testament study and interpretation and the
history of the discovery of the Matthew fragments help to maintain interest
and relate the technical evidence to the reader's world. Recommended for
public and academic libraries." (From Library Journal)
About the Author
Carsten Peter Thiede is a leading authority on ancient manuscripts (a
papyrologist). In addition to lecturing widely, he directs the Institute for
Basic Epistemological Research in Paderborn, Germany, where he lives. He is
a life member of the Institute for Germanic Studies, University of London.
Matthew d'Ancona, Deputy Editor of The Sunday Telegraph, broke the
story about the Magdalen Papyrus in 1994 while he was Assistant Editor of
The Times of London. He obtained a First in Modern History at Magdalen
College, Oxford, in 1989 and was elected a Fellow of All Souls College in
the same year. He and his wife, Katherine Bergen, live in London.
| Manuscript (MS) |
Contains: |
Date |
Eyewitness page ref. |
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| Magdalen Papyrus (P64) |
Matthew 26:7-8, 10, 14-15, 22-23 and 31. |
Before 66 A.D. |
125 |
| Dead Sea Scroll MSS 7Q5 |
Mark 6:52-53 |
Before 68 A.D.
"could be as early as A.D. 50" |
46 |
| Dead Sea Scroll MSS 7Q4 |
1 Timothy 3:16-4:3 |
Before 68 A.D. |
140 |
| Barcelona Papyrus (P67) |
Matthew 3:9, 15; Matthew 5:20-22, 25-28
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Before 66 A.D. |
68-71 |
| Paris Papyrus (P4) |
Luke 3:23, 5:36 |
"not much later" than 66 A.D. |
70 |
| Pauline Codex (P46) |
Paul's Epistles (??) |
85 A.D. |
70-71 |
| Bodmer Papyrus (II) (Johannine Codex
P66) |
Gospel of John, "near complete" |
125 A.D. |
71 |
| P32 |
? |
175 A.D. |
71 |
| P45 |
? |
150 A.D. |
71 |
| P77 |
? |
150 A.D. |
71 |
| P87 |
? |
125 A.D. |
71 |
| P90 |
? |
150 A.D. |
71 |
| John Rylands Greek 457 (P52) |
John 18:31-33, 37-38 |
100-125 A.D. |
115, 126, 138 |
| Papyrus Oxyrhynchus 2683 (P77) |
Matthew 23:30-39 |
150 A.D. |
126 |
| P. Oxyrhynchus 2 (P1) |
Matthew 1:1-9, 12, 14-20 |
"not much later" than P4 (ca. 100 A.D.?) |
126 |
| P. Oxyrhynchus 3523 (P90) |
John 18:36-19:7 |
ca. 125-150 A.D.? |
127 |
Jesus was at Bethany in the house of Simon the Leper, when a woman came to
him with a small bottle of fragrant oil, very costly; and as she sat at the
table she began to pour it over his head.
-- ST. MATTHEW 26:6-7
We may start with the fact, which I confess I did not appreciate before the
investigation, of how little evidence there is for dating any
of the new testament writings.
--JOHN A. T. ROBINSON, Redating the New Testament (1976)
On Christmas Eve, 1994, The Times of London reported on its
front page an astonishing claim made by the German biblical scholar Carsten
Peter Thiede. "A papyrus believed to be the oldest extant fragment of the
New Testament has been found in an Oxford library," the newspaper said. "It
provides the first material evidence that the Gospel according to
St. Matthew is an eyewitness account written by contemporaries of Christ."
The story concerned three tiny scraps of paper belonging to Magdalen
College, Oxford, the largest of which is only 4.1 cm X 1.3 cm (15/8
in. X 1/2 in.). On both sides of the fragments appeared Greek
script, phrases from the twenty-sixth chapter of St. Matthew, which
describes Jesus' anointment in the house of Simon the Leper at Bethany and
his betrayal to the chief priests by Judas Iscariot. Though the verses
concern a crucial moment in the life of Christ, the scraps looked
unremarkable in themselves. Yet Thiede, Director of the Institute for
Basic Epistemogical Research in Paderborn, Germany--argued that they were
of astonishingly early origin, dating from the mid-first century A.D. He
was shortly to publish his claims in the Zeitschrift f³r Papyrologie,
a specialist journal for papyrologists (scholars who study ancient
manuscript evidence on papyrus).
The argument was complex, based upon expert analysis of the Greek writing
on the fragments and upon extensive comparisons with calligraphy on
other manuscript fragments. A scholarly controversy was bound to follow,
since Thiede was challenging the orthodox view that the tiny second-century
fragment of St. John's Gospel in the John Rylands Library in Manchester was
our earliest Gospel text. He was also making a claim which would have
radical implications for our understanding of the Gospels and their
origins. And--most important--he was doing so on the basis of physical
evidence rather than literary theory or historical supposition.
The new claim clearly deserved a much broader audience than the
comparatively small guild of papyrologists to whom Thiede's learned article
was addressed. Here, it was alleged, was a fragment of the twenty-sixth
chapter of St. Matthew remnants of a book perhaps 150 pages long--which
might have been written in the lifetime of the apostle himself. If true,
Thiede's argument had far-reaching implications. As one senior fellow of
Magdalen put it at the time: "It means that the people in the story must
have been around when this was being written. It means they were there."
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At some stage during his time in Egypt, Charles Bousfield Huleatt came upon
three scraps of papyrus which he considered very important. Before taking
up his next post, in Messina, he arranged for his mother to send them to
Magdalen, which she did by recorded delivery in October , together with some
rough notes by her son (now lost). Two months later, Huleatt himself wrote
to the college librarian, H. A. Wilson, to check that the package had
arrived and remarked regretfully en passant upon the recent robbery
of mummies and papyri from one of the tombs at Luxor. This is the only
record left to us of Huleatt's discovery and bequest of the Magdalen
Papyrus--now the most widely discussed fragment of the New Testament in the
world.
Where might he have come upon it? The market in such treasures was
prodigious and still underregulated, in spite of the efforts of the
Antiquities Service to prevent the unauthorized sale of
discoveries. Writing in 1895, the author Henry Stanley was scandalized by
the contempt in which such regulations were held in Luxor and by the trade
in mummies and other antiquities, many of them fake. "Oh certainly Thebes
is the place to buy souvenirs," he wrote, recalling that one man had
bought "three men's heads, one woman's head, one child's head, six hands
large and small, twelve feet, one plump infant's foot, one foot minus a
toe, two ears, one part of a well-preserved face, two ibis mummies, one dog
mummy."
Such grotesque and ghoulish purchases would never have been to Huleatt's
taste, of course. But Stanley's example illustrates the easy ability of
antiquities, authentic or otherwise. The antika shops and bazaars of Egypt
were full of illicitly acquired goods, and scholars were frequently
approached with papyri--those in Coptic and hieroglyphic script generally
supposed by the natives to be more valuable than those in Greek. Sayce's
memoirs make clear how liquid this market actually was. Even a man as
conscientious as Huleatt might not always have been able to distinguish
between a sale which was fully legitimate and one which was not, especially
if the papyrus was a gift from one of his many admirers and acquaintances
among the guests at the Luxor Hotel.
His overriding instinct was evidently to send the papyrus somewhere where it
would be safe. This it would certainly be at Magdalen. His alma mater
would indeed keep the fragments secure, safer than they would ever be in a
land of grave robbers, antika dealers and tourists. But the
college's reaction when presented with the papyrus was that of the relaxed
antiquarian rather than the fascinated scholar. Huleatt's letter of
December 1901 to the librarian reveals that the college had not even
acknowledged its receipt of the fragments in October. Arthur Hunt, a Senior
Demy at Magdalen from 1896 to 1900, before his election to a fellowship at
Lincoln, was asked to estimate the fragments' date, following Huleatt's own
tentative suggestion that they might be third century. Hunt, it seems,
thought this too early and suggested that "they may be assigned with more
probability to the fourth century."
The fragments were laid in a display cabinet in the Old Library, a
magnificent but inaccessible room up a steep staircase in the college
cloisters, which directly adjoin the President's lodgings. Gibbon used to
labor over his books there and Magdalen Fellows still use the library as a
quiet workplace away from the busier parts of college. It is Magdalen's
inner sanctum--although the papyrus was scarcely treated as its holiest of
holies. Instead, it lay among other college memorabilia--the corrected
typescript of Lady Windemere's Fan, a portrait of Henrietta Maria
exciting little attention among the members of the college.
Arthur Hunt's verdict effectively snuffed out the debate on the fragments'
age until after the Second World War. He found a scholarly niche at
Lincoln, while Grenfell returned to The Queen's College, which has remained
a stronghold of papyrology throughout the twentieth century. In 1953, Colin
Roberts redated the Magdalen papyrus to the later second century and
established its relationship to two scraps at the Fundacion San Lucas
Evangelista, Barcelona. That judgment was to stand until Carsten Thiede's
redating, more than forty years later. By this stage, few Fellows of
Magdalen even knew of the existence of the papyrus.
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Synopsis |
In
1901, a clergyman bought three small fragments of the Magdalen Payrus,
parts of the Gospel of Matthew, on the antiquities market in Egypt. He
donated them to Magdalen College in Oxford, England, where they were
placed in an inconspicuous display case and forgotten. But in 1994, Dr.
Carsten Peter Thiede re-examined them and found that they were copies of
the original Gospel of Matthew, dating to A.D. 40-70, and were in fact
an eyewitness account written by one of Christ's contemporaries.
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Length: |
206 pages |
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Height: |
9.5 in. |
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Width: |
6.5 in. |
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Thickness: |
1.0 in. |
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Weight: |
16.0 oz. |
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Publisher's Note |
Christmas Eve 1994 would have come and gone like any other, had it not
been for three tiny papyrus fragments discussed in The Times of Londons
sensational front-page story. The avalanche of letters to the editor
jarred the world into realizing that Matthew dAnconas story was as big
as the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls. The flood of calls received by
Dr. Carsten Peter Thiede, the scholar behind the story, and the
international controversy that spread like wildfire, give us an inkling
as to why the Magdalen Papyrus has embroiled Christianity in a
high-stakes tug-of-war over the Bible.Thiede and dAncona boldly tell the
story of two scholars a century apart who stumbled on the oldest known
remains of the New Testament--hard evidence confirming that St. Matthews
Gospel is the account of an eyewitness to Jesus. It starts in 1901 when
the Reverend Charles B. Huleatt acquires three pieces of a manuscript on
the murky antiquities market of Luxor, Egypt. He donates the papyrus
fragments to his alma mater, Magdalen College in Oxford, England, where
they are kept in a butterfly display case, along with Oscar Wildes ring.
For nearly a century, visitors hardly notice the Matthew fragments,
initially dated to a.d.180-200; but after Dr. Thiede redates them to
roughly a.d. 60, people flock to the library wanting to behold a
first-century copy of the Gospel.But what is all the fuss about? How can
three ancient papyrus fragments be so significant? How did Thiede arrive
at this radical early dating? And what does it mean to the average
Christian? Now we have authoritative answers to these pivotal questions.
Indeed, the Magdalen Papyrus corroborates the tradition that St. Matthew
actually wrote the Gospel bearing his name, that he wrote it within a
generation of Jesus death, and that the Gospel stories about Jesus are
true. Some will vehemently deny Thiede's claims, others will embrace
them, but nobody can ignore Eyewitness to Jesus. The story of two scholars a century apart--Reverend Charles B. Huleatt
and Dr. Carsten Peter Thiede--who stumbled on a find as important as the
Dead Sea Scrolls--three small papyrus fragments that have become the
hard evidence confirming that St. Matthew's Gospel is the account of an
eyewitness to Jesus. 24 photos.
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Industry reviews |
"The
authors give a review of New Testament scholarship from Michaelis to the
members of the Jesus Seminar, describe the intricate workings of the
science of payrology, and recount the life and travels of [Rev. Charles
B.] Huleatt, from his undergraduate days at Magdalen to his death with
his family during the 1908 earthquake at Messina....Intelligent and
controversial collaboration of scholarship and journalism." Raphael
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Date: 08 Jan 2006
Time: 14:25:45
Comments:
I think that this is good evidence for our foundation concerning Gods word
for us.
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