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EARLY CHURCH
Ambrose
Ambrose, Pseudo
Andreas
Arethas
Aphrahat
Athanasius
Augustine
Barnabus
BarSerapion
Baruch, Pseudo
Bede
Chrysostom
Chrysostom, Pseudo
Clement, Alexandria
Clement, Rome
Clement, Pseudo
Cyprian
Ephraem
Epiphanes
Eusebius
Gregory
Hegesippus
Hippolytus
Ignatius
Irenaeus
Isidore
James
Jerome
King Jesus
Apostle John
Lactantius
Luke
Mark
Justin Martyr
Mathetes
Matthew
Melito
Oecumenius
Origen
Apostle Paul
Apostle Peter
Maurus Rabanus
Remigius
"Solomon"
Severus
St.
Symeon
Tertullian
Theophylact
Victorinus

HISTORICAL PRETERISM
(Minor Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 or Revelation
in Past)
Joseph Addison
Oswald T. Allis Thomas Aquinas
Karl Auberlen
Augustine
Albert Barnes
Karl Barth
G.K. Beale Beasley-Murray
John Bengel
Wilhelm Bousset
John A. Broadus
David Brown
"Haddington Brown"
F.F. Bruce
Augustin Calmut
John Calvin
B.H. Carroll
Johannes Cocceius
Vern Crisler
Thomas Dekker
Wilhelm De Wette
Philip Doddridge
Isaak Dorner
Dutch Annotators
Alfred Edersheim
Jonathan Edwards
E.B.
Elliott
Heinrich Ewald Patrick Fairbairn
Js. Farquharson
A.R. Fausset
Robert Fleming
Hermann Gebhardt
Geneva Bible
Charles Homer Giblin
John Gill
William Gilpin
W.B. Godbey
Ezra Gould
Steve Gregg
Hank Hanegraaff
Hengstenberg Matthew Henry
G.A. Henty
George Holford
Johann von Hug
William Hurte
J, F, and Brown
B.W. Johnson
John Jortin
Benjamin Keach
K.F. Keil
Henry Kett
Richard Knatchbull Johann Lange
Cornelius Lapide
Nathaniel Lardner
Jean Le Clerc
Peter Leithart
Jack P. Lewis
Abiel Livermore
John Locke
Martin Luther
James MacDonald
James MacKnight
Dave MacPherson
Keith Mathison
Philip Mauro
Thomas Manton
Heinrich Meyer
J.D. Michaelis
Johann Neander
Sir Isaac Newton
Thomas Newton
Stafford North
Dr. John Owen
Blaise Pascal
William W. Patton
Arthur Pink
Thomas Pyle
Maurus Rabanus
St. Remigius
Anne Rice
Kim Riddlebarger
J.C. Robertson
Edward Robinson
Andrew Sandlin
Johann Schabalie
Philip Schaff
Thomas Scott
C.J. Seraiah
Daniel Smith
Dr. John
Smith
C.H. Spurgeon Rudolph E. Stier
A.H. Strong St. Symeon
Theophylact
Friedrich Tholuck
George Townsend
James Ussher
Wm. Warburton
Benjamin Warfield
Noah Webster
John Wesley
B.F. Westcott William Whiston
Herman Witsius
N.T. Wright
John Wycliffe
Richard Wynne
C.F.J. Zullig

MODERN PRETERISTS
(Major Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 or Revelation
in Past)
Firmin Abauzit
Jay Adams
Luis Alcazar
Greg Bahnsen
Beausobre, L'Enfant
Jacques Bousset
John L. Bray
David Brewster
Dr. John Brown
Thomas Brown
Newcombe Cappe
David Chilton
Adam Clarke
Henry Cowles
Ephraim Currier
R.W. Dale
Gary DeMar
P.S. Desprez
Johann Eichhorn
Heneage Elsley
F.W. Farrar
Samuel Frost
Kenneth Gentry
Hugo Grotius
Francis X. Gumerlock
Henry Hammond
Hampden-Cook
Friedrich Hartwig
Adolph Hausrath
Thomas
Hayne
J.G. Herder
Timothy Kenrick
J. Marcellus Kik
Samuel Lee
Peter Leithart
John Lightfoot
Benjamin Marshall
F.D. Maurice
Marion Morris
Ovid Need, Jr
Wm. Newcombe
N.A. Nisbett
Gary North
Randall Otto
Zachary Pearce
Andrew Perriman
Beilby Porteus
Ernst Renan
Gregory Sharpe
Fr. Spadafora
R.C. Sproul
Moses Stuart
Milton S. Terry
Herbert
Thorndike
C. Vanderwaal
Foy Wallace
Israel P.
Warren Chas Wellbeloved
J.J. Wetstein
Richard Weymouth
Daniel Whitby
George Wilkins
E.P. Woodward

FUTURISTS
(Virtually No Fulfillment of Matt. 24/25 & Revelation in 1st
C. - Types Only ; Also Included are "Higher Critics" Not Associated With Any
Particular Eschatology)
Henry Alford
G.C. Berkower
Alan Patrick Boyd
John Bradford
Wm.
Burkitt
George Caird
Conybeare/ Howson
John Crossan
John N. Darby
C.H. Dodd E.B. Elliott
G.S.
Faber
Jerry Falwell
Charles G. Finney
J.P. Green Sr.
Murray Harris
Thomas Ice
Benjamin Jowett John N.D. Kelly
Hal Lindsey
John MacArthur
William Miller
Robert Mounce Eduard Reuss
J.A.T. Robinson
George Rosenmuller
D.S. Russell
George Sandison
C.I. Scofield
Dr. John Smith
Norman Snaith
"Televangelists" Thomas Torrance
Jack/Rex VanImpe
John Walvoord
Quakers :
George Fox |
Margaret Fell (Fox) |
Isaac Penington
PRETERIST UNIVERSALISM |
PRETERIST-IDEALISM
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Audio Sermons & Video Media
Carlsbad 2007
ARCHIVED POWERPOINT
PRESENTATIONS FROM CARLSBAD WITH TRANSCRIPTS
For use with
CONFERENCE MP3s
Third Presentation Available Here
Transcripts:
The Dead Sea Scrolls and
Fulfilled Eschatology ; Powerpoint Presentation - Presentation Transcript
- Todd Dennis P reterist A rchive.com
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San Diego Preterist Fellowship 3:30pm Sundays Vista,
California
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Dead Sea Scrolls …and Fulfilled Eschatology
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Theo-Political Establishment & Opposition Shatter
Points in Controversies : Establishment Power Opposition Movements
Peaceful Caught in Middle
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American Apocalyptic Movement JANET RENO John
Ashcroft Collecting and Remitting Taxes to the Government Tax-Exempt vs.
Tax Immune
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Dangers of American Establishment Mixing Theology and
Politics Theo-Political Establishment With Theo-Political Establishment,
Compromises go way of Politics Yields Accumulation of Power, Wealth and
Property Endless Compromises with Enemies and Impious Systematic
Persecution of Opposition Groups Opposition Movements Steadily Grow in
Anger and Aggressiveness Begin to Entrench in Positions of Opposition
Start Collaborating with Likeminded Groups Ever Increasing Threat to
Establishment Leading to Inevitable Clash of Forces
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“ The Poor” Challenging Power & Authority
Political Tensions Against Jesus’ “Authority” Collaboration with Rome so
“Nation Perish Not” Public Evocation of “Eschatological Rain” Imagery
palm branch “ Hereafter shall you see the Son of man sitting on the
right hand of power and coming in the clouds of heaven”
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Dead Sea Scrolls Opposition Apocalyptic Press “
Raining Judgment on all the Evil Ones”
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DSS Overview Discovered between 1947 and 1956 in
eleven caves near ruins of ancient settlement of Khirbet Qumran
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Approx. 850 Documents Including Hebrew Bible Texts,
Commentaries and Other Fragments DSS Overview
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Where Did Scrolls Come From? Establishment vs.
Opposition Scholarship Were All From a “Qumran Sect” ? Essenes ? Could
Some Have Come From Fleeing Christians ?
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Commonalities Among Various Groups Pious Jews, Not
Simply Villians of Josephus Hated the Herodian Collaborators Wicked
Abominations of Religion Temple Practices Akin to “Strange Fire”
Despised Their Looting of the Poor Saw All As Signs of the “End of Days”
Determined to Oppose to the Last
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Results For Opposition : Jewish Temple Destroyed
Roman Legions enter and destroy religious center, taking its treasures
to Rome.
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Days of Visitation Federal Marshals enter ; seize
buildings and 22 acres of land, valued at $6 million. Results For
Opposition : Baptist Temple Destroyed
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THE BURNT HOUSE
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Three Approaches Collaborate with Establishment
Benefits of Power and Riches 2) Be A Zealot to Overthrow Short-Lived
Moral Benefits 3) Live in Peace and Rest as Able “ Come Out of Her, and
Be Ye Separate” - Beware of Seducers Trying to Influence Approach False
Prophets in Establishment Groups False Prophets in Opposition Groups
too..
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First Century Judean Christians Identified with
Opposition, But Didn’t Join “ Let us go forth therefore unto him without
the camp, bearing his reproach.”
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James and the Jerusalem Church Biblical, Historical,
and Potential DSS Witness of James “ Come now, you rich, weep and howl
for your miseries which are coming upon you. …It is in the last days
that you have stored up your treasure!” (5:1,3) “ You too be patient;
strengthen your hearts, for the coming of the Lord is at hand.. behold,
the judge standeth before the door.” (James. 5:7,9)
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Similar Rhetoric in Scrolls Some Have Suggested
Direct Correlation PESHER NAHUM (4QpNah = 4Q169) Translation by J.
Allegro, from DJD V, 1968
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The “Coming of God“ Associated with the Fall of
Jerusalem Primary Witness to the Truth of the Gospel: A Series of
Discourses, Also A Charge on Modern... By Charles Wordsworth
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James’ Opposition Role a Threat to Theo-Political
Ruler Ananus Taken to the “Pinnacle of the Temple” 215 Feet High Book 5
of Hegessipus
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Cast Down 215 Feet From “The Pinnacle of the Temple”
& After Surviving the Fall Was Beaten to Death With a Club While
Praying Book 5 of Hegessipus
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"To the place of trumpeting"
Indicate where priests would stand to Blow the trumpet to begin the
Sabbath Southeast Corner Stone discovered by Benjamin Mazar (1968)
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THE BEGINNING OF THE END Prodigies During Festival
Season of AD66 “ There will be terrors and signs from heaven” J esus,
Luke 21:11
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Thus were the miserable people persuaded by
deceivers, they did not attend, nor give credit, to the signs that did
so plainly foretell their future desolation; but, without either eyes to
see or minds to consider, did not regard the denunciations that God made
to them. De Bell. Jud . 6, 5, 3 Festival Season of AD66
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“ While the people were assembling for the Feast of
Unleavened Bread, at the ninth hour of the night [3:00 A. M.] so bright
a light shone round the altar and Temple that it looked like broad
daylight; and this lasted for half an hour. The inexperienced regarded
it as a good omen, but it was immediately interpreted by the sacred
scribes in conformity with subsequent events.” (Josephus VI-V-3)
Festival Season of AD66
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Thus there was a star resembling a sword, which stood
over the city, and a comet, that continued a whole year De Bell. Jud .
6, 5, 3 Festival Season of AD66
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"Before sunset were seen around the whole
country chariots poised in the air, and armed battalions speeding
through the clouds and investing the cities.“ (Traill's Josephus,
page 197) Festival Season of AD66
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Festival Season of AD66 "During the Festival
called Pentecost, the Priests having come by night into the Inner temple
to perform their services, as was their custom, reported that they
perceived a quaking and noise, and after that a voice as of a multitude,
Let us depart hence.” De Bell. Jud . l. 6, 31. Histories , Book 5, v. 13
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Christian Flight to Pella Historically Substantiates
Preterist view as early Christian interpretation (cf. Matthew 24:16).
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Gallus 10/66 Vespasian 67-68 Titus 67-70 AUGUST 66
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Mapped on “Google World” Christian Flight to Pella
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100 Miles http://earth.imagico.de Christian Flight to
Pella
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Christian Flight to Pella From Jerusalem, 2,500 feet
above sea level, to Jordan, 1,300 feet below sea level
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Christian Flight to Pella
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Christian Flight to Pella
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Christian Flight to Pella Sole DSS Greek Fragments
Possible Christian Deposits / Martyrs Along Route CAVE 7 17 Greek
Fragments in Cave 7
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Greek Fragments Discovered in Cave 7 Qumran overrun
by Vespasian in AD 68 // Earliest existing NT fragments by 100 years.
JOHN A.T. ROBINSON’S DATES
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"7Q5 = Mark 6:52-53" Christian
Flight to Pella CURIOSTIY OF CAVE 7 Exodus (7Q1) Jeremiah (7Q2) Mark
(7Q5) Enoch (7Q3) Second Peter NT Jude Possible depository on
"Pella Flight“ of the very community in which the biblical
writer Jude lived and ministered.
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Christian Flight to Pella Cave 7 Collapsed, Remains
Closed Despite 1993 Promise of Re-Excavation
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Well Developed Fulfilled Eschatology Earliest Known
“Preterist Commentaries” Preterist Christianity of Today United with 1
st Century Groups of James and the DSS Authors
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Interpretations of 1 st C. Opposition Foresaw the
Coming Desolation Used History and Scripture For Proof MAIN POINTS OF
UNITY 1. Romans are the “End Times” Enemy 2. The High Priesthood
Hopelessly Apostate 3. 1 st Cent. “End of Days” & Final Generation
4. Jerusalem Desolated & Temple Abominated
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#1 Point of Unity Romans - “End-Time” Enemy
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Rome as “Kittim” " The next line begins,
"Its interpretation concerns the Kittim...." The
modern theory had already been propounded by interpretation by the
ancient community two thousand years earlier!" - John C.
Trever, The Untold Story of Qumran
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Roma Victor?
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Madness, Blood, Lust, Raw Power And the angel said to
me, Wherefore did you marvel?
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#1 – Romans as “Kittim”
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Habakkuk Commentary – 1QpHab
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#2 Point of Unity Apostate Establishment
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#2 Establishment Apostate
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WRITTEN BY THE TEACHER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS ? “ because
of] violence and fornication [some] places have been destroyed.
[Further,] it is writt[en in the Book of Moses,] 'You [are no]t to
bring the abomination t[o your house, because] the abomination is
despised (by God).' [Now, you know that] we broke with the
majority of the peo[ple and refused] to mix or go along wi[th them] on
these matters. You also k[now that] no rebellion or Lying or Evil
[should be] found in His Temple. It is because of [these things w]e
present [these words] [and (earlier) wrot]e to you, so that you will
understand the Book of Moses [and the words of the Pr]ophets
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COPPER SCROLL: Proof of Apostasy? Discovered in Cave
3 64 underground hiding places Massive Temple Wealth - Gold, Silver,
Aromatics, and Manuscripts. Certain to be treasures from the Temple
hidden for safekeeping. Incense and Ashes of Red Heifer "In the
cave that is next to the fountain belonging to the House of Hakkoz , dig
six cubits. (There are) six bars of gold" #2 Establishment
Apostate
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#3 Point of Unity “ End of Days “ – Last Generation
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Pesher Habakkuk – 1QpHab "Peshru about the
priests of Jerusalem. The final (end time) ones who gather up wealth
and take a cut from the spoils from the peoples and for the
"Last Days" they give their wealth with spoil into the
hands of The Roman army. " (Moellerhaus Translation)
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"..from the day of the gathering in of the
unique teacher, until the destruction of all the men of war who turned
back with the man of lies, there shall be about forty years."
(xx, 14-15) "I will stare at his place and he will no longer be
there. Its interpretation concerns all the evil at the end of the forty
years, for they shall be devoured.." (Commentary on Ps 37:10,
4QPsalms Pesher [4Q17, ii, 6-8]). Damascus Document
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" And we recognize that some of the
blessings and curses have come, those written in the Bo[ok of Mo]ses;
therefore this is the End of Days “
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“ therefore this is the End of Days " 4QMMT
“ Terminology used in Palestine from the 40s to the 60s"
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“ Jerusalem” By William Blake #4 Point of Unity
Jerusalem, Temple to be Desolated
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Pesher Habukkuk The city is Jerusalem in which the
wicked priest did works of abomination and defiled the Temple of
God." lQpHab 12.7-9 USING OVERT REFERENCES TO JERUSALEM
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COVERT REFERENCES TO JERUSALEM
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Temple Priesthood Foresaw Zacharias Chapter 11:1 in
Douay-Rheims Bible (1586) “ Destruction of Jerusalem and the temple”
Open thy gates, O Libanus, and let fire devour thy cedars . O Libanus.
. .So Jerusalem, and more particularly the temple, is called by the
prophets, from its being built of the cedars of Libanus.
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Even Josephus Preteristic BEFORE AND AFTER AD70 :
SPOKEN AND WRITTEN
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Jeremiah Lamenting the destruction of Jerusalem By
Rembrandt van Rijn Romans Were End-Time Enemy Collaborating
Establishment Was Apostate They Were in the Last Days and the Final
Generation Jerusalem and Temple Were Desolated
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Nevertheless.. Tabaqat Fahil Obedient Christians Did
Flee They Were Vindicated in Fulfillment Christ Did Become Ruler of All
Nations Workers of Iniquity Still Being Exposed…
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Jerusalem a Rejoicing In that day it shall be said to
Jerusalem, Fear thou not: and to Zion, Let not thine hands be slack. The
LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will
rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over
thee with singing. (Zeph 3:17-18) "The righteous shall flourish
like the palm tree” Ps. 92
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Old Seeds of Life Unearthed Seeds Are Found in Old
Places Sprout after Planting in Soil Will Generate With Watering
PART ONE
"The (New) History of Full
Preterism" (Part One) - Powerpoint Presentation
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The History of Full Preterism Carlsbad Conference
(New)
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San Diego Preterist Fellowship
Community of Partial Preterists, Calvinists,
Universalists, Idealists
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Online Community for a Decade Brought together from
all over the world All Theological Backgrounds
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Long-Standing Christian Tradition: Utilizing Latest
Methods as Evangelical Tools First page of the Codex Argenteus The
Opposition Press of Tyndale From Scroll to Codex in 1 st C. Eusebius and
Imperial Power Medieval Illustrated Manuscripts Personal Computer and
WWW
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P52 From Scroll to Codex in 1 st Century Writing on
Both Sides Easier Reference Compact Style Elegant
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1355 Medieval Illustrated Manuscripts Gospels of Tsar
Ivan Alexander
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Advent of the Printing Press
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Rise of Personal Computer & Internet “ Last week, two
elders resigned after embracing the heresy of hyper-preterism.. This
week, one of our remaining two elders spoke with eloquence and humility
in showing why this view was indeed heretical. Praise God! It is my
understanding that this heresy is spreading like wee(d)s in Reformed
churches" – Timothy Barnett "Reformed Christians rabidly
devour "consistent preterism" - it's the new wave in the
Reformed world, somewhat akin to Rap music and body-piercing among
modern pagans." - Andrew Sandlin
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And Introducing the Latest.. Effective Method of
Theological Evangelism Revolutionary Harmony: Oldest Information
Technology Meets Newest
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Exploring Development of Partial Preterism from the
Beginning of Publishing Era
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1785 - Ralph Churton, "Eight Sermons on the
Prophecies Respecting the Destruction of Jerusalem." 1885 – F.W.
Farrar, "History of Interpretation"
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But when, exactly, did today’s “Full Preterism”
Arise? ENDLESS LITANY OF CONTROVERSIES Catholics vs. Protestants ;
Church of England vs. Dissenters ; Everyone vs. Quakers ; New Jerusalem
Church vs. ‘Old Church” ; Universalists vs. “Limitarians” ; Universal
vs. Local Deluge
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Earliest Known Undeniably Full Preterist Author? MAX
KING 1971
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Grandpa Voss’ Tombstone
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James Stuart Russell’s “Parousia”
colorized by Virgil Vaduva
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Accepted 19 th /20 th C. Preterism Not Full
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James Stuart Russell - "We must consequently
regard this prediction of the loosing of Satan, and the events that
follow, as still future, and therefore unfulfilled. (Parousia, p.
523)
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John Humphrey Noyes - “we agree with most other
sects, in believing that the final judgment of mankind is yet future
– that it will take place at the end of the ‘times of the Gentiles,’
as the judgment of the second coming took place at the end of the
times of the Jews.” (The Berean)
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Increasing Development of Preterism Through the
Centuries
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Ephraim Currier - 1841
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"If any thing can be proved by the word of
God, I pledge myself to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, that the
resurrection of the Jews and all Christian believers, was at the
time of the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans.“
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Earliest Known Undeniably Full Preterist Author MAX
KING 1971
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Published in 1917 Logansport, Indiana
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" the heaven and earth that were destined to
pass away and be superseded by a new heaven and a new earth wherein
dwelleth righteousness, was the old imperfect and temporary covenant ”
Marion Morris “Christ’s Second Coming Fulfilled” (1917) Became Earliest
Known Full Preterist Resurrection View: Immortal Body at Death "And
in the same generation in which "He had offered one sacrifice for
sins forever," He came the second time and fulfilled the words of
the One Hundred and Tenth Psalm and made His enemies His footstool"
"When one comes to believe that such words as "Must shortly
come to pass." (Rev. 1:1) "The time is at hand." (Rev
1:3) "Behold I come quickly." (Rev 1:3) "Behold I come
quickly." (Rev. 3:11) "yea, I come quickly." (Rev. 22:20)
Have reference to the time of the generation then living, much that is
written in this wonderful book (Revelation) that hitherto was obscure
will then be made plain.”
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Momentous Discovery on the Week of PA.com’s 10 th
Anniversary
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Dr. Samuel Lee
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That the Jews, at whatever time converted, will,
on their conversion, lose all their distinctive characteristics as a
nation, and will become, with the Gentiles, one body in Christ.
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Dr. Samuel Lee
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"my system is good, and hence, I have no
doubt, it will first or last prevail. Its results are certainly
good. I care not, therefore, for the present popularity of the
opposite view." (Letter to brother, May 2, 1850)
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Brilliant Scholar of Many Languages
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"The Expositor who sympathizes most with our
Lecturer (Calvin) among writers of our own day, is the late
Professor Lee, of Cambridge. In his translations of the Hebrew
Scriptures he is unrivaled; no scholar of our age can approach him
in the extent of his learning” Thomas Myers
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Samuel Lee’s Credentials
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1817-18 - Malay Scriptures, Arabic and Coptic
Gospels, Translated Genesis into Persian, Superintended the
Hindustani Prayer-Book, and Morning and Evening Prayers in Persic.
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Discoverer of Lost Work by Eusebius
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“ These manuscripts Mr Tattam sent me with the
request that I would give him some account of their contents, which
I did as soon as my other engagements would allow. It was in looking
over these manuscripts that I had the extreme pleasure of
discovering a long lost work, called “The Theophany” by Eusebius
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Eusebius of Caesarea “ we must understand by ‘the end
of days’ the end of national existence of the Jews.” "One of the
best known and most accessible of the ancient preterists” Ken Gentry
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The Divine Manifestation of Christ By Eusebius
Bishop of Caesarea ( c. 265 - 340)
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Stunning Impact of “Theophany” "Eusebius never
allows the doctrine of Christ's second coming any importance in his
historical scheme. There is no sense of a new kingdom which will at
some future date break in upon the existing historical structure,
righting what is wrong and establishing justice." Frank S. Thielman
"The Second Coming is treated by Eusebius as not an essential
event, and even less like a culminating event, but only as one element
which plays a symmetrical part as that of the theophanies of the Old
Testament, compared to the first coming.“ “Sirilli’s Review” FIRST
MODERN PRETERIST BOOK IN AD310? "EVER since his translation of
Eusebius's 'Theophania,' my father's mind had been more or less occupied
on the subject of Prophecy, and he became convinced that the views which
he entertained, known as the Preterist, were those held by the early
Church. Anna Lee, Daughter
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The (New) History of Full Preterism Carlsbad
Conference
PART TWO
"The (New) History of Full
Preterism" (Part Two) - Powerpoint Presentation - Presentation Transcript
- The (New) History of Full Preterism Carlsbad Conference
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Dr. Samuel Lee Earliest Known Modern Preterist “ he
is unrivaled; no scholar of our age can approach him” "he
became convinced that the views which he entertained, known as the
Preterist, were those held by the early Church." "Add
to this, (the book of Revelation's) own repeated declarations, that
what was then said was shortly to come to pass ; and we shall be led to
a conclusion as strong as words and facts can make it, that the purposes
of God, as declared by the Prophets, and generally summed up in this
Book, have been long ago fulfilled and finished."
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"We cannot humble ourselves too much, we
cannot love Christ too much, we cannot depend too much upon Him, nor
cast our cares too implicitly and fully upon Him, nor indeed can we
rejoice too much in His power, readiness and willingness to save to the
uttermost. " “ I find him a very pleasant chatting man, and in
high spirits like a boy... He seemed perfectly happy.“ – Charles Darwin,
May 16, 1832
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The Divine Manifestation of Christ By Eusebius Found
80 miles from Cairo at “Monastery of the Blessed Virgin” No other copy
of it was known to exist Only mention was in "Lives of
Illustrious Men" by Jerome. Dated by hand to A.D. 411 Bishop of
Caesarea ( c. 265 - 340)
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Stunning Impact of “Theophany” "Eusebius
never allows the doctrine of Christ's second coming any importance
in his historical scheme. There is no sense of a new kingdom which will
at some future date break in upon the existing historical structure,
righting what is wrong and establishing justice." Frank S.
Thielman "The Second Coming is treated by Eusebius as not an
essential event, and even less like a culminating event, but only as one
element which plays a symmetrical part as that of the theophanies of the
Old Testament, compared to the first coming.“ “Sirilli’s Review” FIRST
MODERN PRETERIST BOOK IN AD310? "EVER since his translation of
Eusebius's 'Theophania,' my father's mind had been
more or less occupied on the subject of Prophecy, and he became
convinced that the views which he entertained, known as the Preterist,
were those held by the early Church. Anna Lee, Daughter
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Lee’s Bold “Preliminary Dissertation” Published in
1843 "it is evident that Eusebius believed that the End had
come. And in this there can be no doubt, I think, he was right; but as
this involves a question very ill understood at this day, it may be
right to offer a few words here, as to what is meant by the End.“ "the
old and elementary system passed away with a great noise; all these
predicted empires have actually fallen, and the new kingdom, the new
heaven and earth, the new Jerusalem -- all of which were to descend from
God, to be formed by His power, have been realised on earth ; all these
things have been done in the sight of all the nations"
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Extensive letters defending his view 1843 -
Preliminary Disserations on Eusebius 1849 - An Inquiry into the Nature,
Progress and End of Prophecy. 1849.--A Letter to G. S. Faber, B.D.,
containing an Interpretation of 2 Peter iii. 1849.--A Letter to the
Right Reverend the Lord Bishop of Glouchester and Bristol.
1849-51.--The New Testament translated into Arabic, and part of the Old
with Notes. 1851.--The Events and Times of the Visions of Daniel and St
John investigated. Launched Preterist Publishing Career
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A Difficulty With Categorizing Lee FULL PRETERISM:
All eschatology fulfilled by AD70 Seemingly Not A Full Preterist ! Lee
Doesn’t End Prophetic Fulfillment at AD70, But Extends to the Fourth
Century. How Can He Be Considered a Full Preterist ? Full Preterism:
AD70 as the Consummation of the Ages WEBSTER’S DICTIONARY: PRETERIST “ A
theologian who believes that all of the prophecies of the Apocalypse
have been fulfilled.”
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Differences Between Lee and FP “ the feet must of
necessity symbolize Heathen Rome in its last times.” Focus Being Battle
With Judaism AND Paganism Overthrow of the Most Powerful Empire the
World Has Ever Seen As with Bishop Jacque Bossuet of Meaux (1627-1704)
“Six Seal Preterist” Nebuchanezzar’s Image
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Differences Between Lee and FP "The vision
of the evening and morning...is true:" and here the
establishment of Christ's kingdom is clearly foretold. In Zechariah
(ver. 9), "And," i. e. in that day, " the
lord shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one
Lord, and His name one." Both the one year, and day, is
therefore divided into two parts: the first in the one case, is Summer,
in the second, the Evening. In Daniel's seventieth week, the
Apostolic period is, as we have seen, its first portion, and this
constitutes the Apostolical Millennium: its second portion reaching from
the fall of the City and Temple, to the establishment of Christianity
under Constantine. These then, respectively, are Zechariah's Summer
and Winter, Morning and Evening. We have therefore, the same period, and
portions of it, before us in every case : and in the increasing progress
of this river, a lively representation of the triumphant progress of the
Gospel." Daniel’s Seventieth Week
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“ Modern Preterist” - Yet Not Full MODERN PRETERISM -
The whole spectrum of fully fulfilled eschatology, which includes Full
Preterism, and recent systems of Preterist-Idealism. Generally believes
that all eschatology was fulfilled by AD70, or with Pagan Rome’s fall or
conversion to Christianity .
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Regardless, Lee Had World-Wide Impact Translations
Theological Journals James Stuart Russell Almost certainly aware of
Lee's preterist system Professional lives overlapped by at least
five years Russell only thirty miles away from Lee at Cambridge. Russell
attended Chestnut College in Samuel Lee's home district of
Hertfordshire. Quite likely a close observer of Lee, if not apprentice
of some sort. Lee became the Source of Massive Scorn Perhaps Reason Why
Russell Published Anonymously Liverpool Pastor Who, as a result of
studies on Lee’s writings, penned the EARLIEST KNOWN UNDENIABLY FULL
PRETERIST BOOK
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Full Preterist Quotes From Townley (1845) The Second
Advent of the Lord Jesus Christ, A Past Event. "there is not a
shadow of a shade of error in the conclusion at which I have
arrived." "we conceive to be the scriptural doctrine
of the Millennium, as confined to the period of the Apostolic
ministry." Now the resurrection, being part and parcel of that
preaching of the gospel to which this promise was made, "Lo, I
am with you alway, even to the consummation of the age;"
therefore the resurrection must be limited by the same consummation of
the age, and must consequently be past, the Apostolic age and ministry
being now no longer visible, and the promise of Christ being now of none
effect. "The Lord God, at the destruction of Jerusalem, made
his foes his footstool; he completely abolished death, of whom it is
said, in 1 Cor. 15, " Death, the last enemy, is
disabled" he took away entirely the first covenant, which was
"the ministration of death," that he might establish
supremely the second, which was the ministration of life ; he removed
the things which, in Paul's day, " were shaken, that the
things which could not be shaken might remain." (Heb. 9:27)
"The heavens (of the Jewish church) passed away with a great
noise; the elements ('beggarly') melted with fervent heat, the
earth also, and the works that were therein, (all that attached to the
Mosaic economy, see Heb. 9:1-11,) were burned up, and the new heavens
and new earth appeared," (2 Peter 3.) Robert Townley – Earliest
Known Full Preterist
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Townley Influenced by Samuel Lee "would that
Professor Lee's works formed part of a prescribed course of reading
for ordination candidates.“ “ I will take the liberty of transcribing
one or two passages respecting the fall of Jerusalem, in order to show
the correspondency between his views of the fulfillment of prophecy and
my own” We prove, and Dr. Lee admits, that “the kingdoms of this world
have become the kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ;” consequently the
prediction must have been fulfilled.”
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Townley Attacks Universalism Target: Dr. David Thom
of Liverpool – Universalism and Calvinism Robert Townley – Earliest
Known Full Preterist If I am to be a believer in Universalism, I must
have a widely different statement from any which Mr. T. propounds.
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Involved in the following controversies: Eternal
Punishment Global Flood Judgment in AD70 4. Universalism A Very Curious
Endorsement Of Townley Brings up Townley’s Difficulties
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Universal Atonement UNIVERSALISM General Definition
All mankind will ultimately be saved from all forms of judgment and
damnation. History of Consistent Preterism & Universalism
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"a man of no ordinary character. He is
settled as pastor of an Independent Congregation in Liberpool, and is
widely known by his published writings, as well as respected for his
learning, ability, and piety" - New York Tribune, April 8, 1843
On What Point Did Thom Convert Townley to Universalism Converted by Dr.
David Thom Townley’s Conversion Berean Universalist Church – Closed in
1975
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A Developed “Consistent Cessationism” We object to
the entire constitution of the various religious establishments of the
day, because we believe that they all maintain the great foundation
principle of Judaism, viz., an outward and visible church This was the
originating cause of trouble then, from the man of sin, Antichrist,
flesh, (the law, see Romans viii. 8,) the carnal mind, which was
attached to the law, whose strength was sin, which was the sting of
death, the wages of sin, of which death the devil had the power. At the
same destruction of Jerusalem all these the enemies were put under
Christ's feet, the fall of Jerusalem being, if his own words are
authority, most indisputably his second coming to "reward every
man according to his works." Townley’s Conversion Now, if at
the destruction of Jerusalem there was a taking away of the first
covenant; a removing of .the old heaven and earth, and a burning up of
the same ; and if sin, Satan, death, and hell have their true and
scriptural meaning in reference only to the two covenants of Sinai and
Sion, as consequent upon the Adamic transgression - and proof to the
contrary is defied - if these things be so, then are we warranted in
concluding ….
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A View of “The Law” As Mosaic Order “ This was the
originating cause of trouble then, from the man of sin, Antichrist,
flesh, (the law, see Romans viii. 8,) the carnal mind, which was
attached to the law, whose strength was sin, which was the sting of
death, the wages of sin, of which death the devil had the power. “
Townley’s Conversion to Universalism "If sin, Satan, death, and
hell have their true and scriptural meaning in reference only to the two
covenants of Sinai and Sion, as consequent upon the Adamic
transgression...then are we warranted in concluding that the time when
the covenant of Sinai was 'everlastingly banished from the presence
of God, and from the glory of his power,' being the destruction of
Jerusalem, and every thing opposed to God being comprehended in that
covenant, and having no meaning out of that covenant - that at the same
destruction of Jerusalem all these the enemies were put under Christ's
feet....On the other hand, the common opinion of the day is, that so far
from sin, Satan, death and hell being destroyed in the finished work of
Christ, these several enemies are stronger than ever..."
Townley, p. 17
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Breakfast in America (Boston) Dr. David Thom “By
some, the (Apocalypse) is considered to have received its accomplishment
and at the period of Jerusalem’s destruction. Among the American
Universalists, this view is very prevalant .” (The number and names of
the apocalyptic beasts: with an explanation and application) Townley’s
Conversion
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American Preterist Universalism Issues : Coming of
Son of Man, Endless Punishment, Annihilation, Global Deluge, Universal
Salvation Shop Talk Between Unitarians, Universalists &
Congregationalists Harvard Divinity was Unitarian & “All the
Churches of Boston” Stages of Arminianism, Arianism, anti-Trinitarianism,
rationalism and modernism. Judgment upon Jews in AD70 History of
Consistent Preterism & Universalism
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Townley Co-Minister with Balfour Similar case to
Townley : Former Calvinist, Convinced of Universalism by a Preterist -
“The Old Testament, he thinks, makes (gehenna) an emblem of the future
temporal punishment to the Jews as a nation. With this clue he comes to
the New Testament and interprets all such passages as Matt. 23:33 ("Ye
generation of vipers, how shall ye escape the damnation of hell?")
of the temporal calamities connected with the fall of Jerusalem.” “ I
deemed Universalism a great error, sometimes discussed the subject with
Universalists, and always thought had the best of the argument. The
first thing which staggered my faith in the doctrine of endless
punishment was reading Mr. Stuart’s letters His statements, I was unable
to controvert, and the text of which they were founded seemed to support
them.” Consistent Preterism & Universalism
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