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Archeology/Jerusalem: J. King - Recent Discoveries on the Temple Hill at Jerusalem (1884 PDF)


Either a brilliant find or a brilliant hoax.. you decide!

"Astonishingly, one of the booklets appears to bear the words ‘Saviour of Israel’ – one of the few phrases so far translated."


Hassan Saida

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Philip Davies, emeritus professor of Old Testament Studies at Sheffield University, told Pigott he was "dumbstruck" at the sight of plates representing a picture map of ancient Jerusalem. "There is a cross in the foreground, and behind it is what has to be the tomb [of Jesus], a small building with an opening, and behind that the walls of the city," Davies explained. "There are walls depicted on other pages of these books, too, and they almost certainly refer to Jerusalem."

Ancient Revelations:
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Lead Codices from Jordan

PURPORTED TO BE FROM BATANAEA/DECAPOLIS AREA, HIDDEN IN A CAVE BY THE PELLA FLIGHT CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY; POSSIBLY ONLY 50 YEARS OLD

"DISCOVERED IN 2005"

Thoughts on the Jordan Lead Codices | New Round-up on Lead Codices


Connected to the "Flight to Pella" Tradition of Early Christianity

"We do know that on two occasions groups of refugees from the troubles in Jerusalem fled east, they crossed the Jordan near Jericho and then they fled east to very approximately where these books were said to have been found," she says." BBC

"The area is renowned as an age-old refuge for ancient Jews fleeing the bloody aftermath of a series of revolts against the Roman empire in the First and early Second Century AD."


GOAL #1 - UNRAVEL THE MYSTERIES OF CODEX IMAGES TO HELP PROVE / DISPROVE GENUINENESS

PREVAILING THEORY: MATERIALS LIFTED FROM OTHER SOURCES


EXHIBIT A : THE HELIOS CROCODILE PAGE

Picasa #28-29 Combined

MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ANSWERED, NO DOUBT.  AS I FIND THEM, I WILL POST THEM.  FEEL FREE TO JOIN IN BELOW AND POST YOUR OWN THEORIES OR FACTS.

KEY QUESTIONS (in no particular order)

  • What languages are represented on the codex?

  • What are the translations of the passages?

  • Who is the central figure?  Helios?

  • Who are the figures below?  Parents?

  • What is the connection to Egypt? (Egypt is a focal point due to the presence of a chariot and an alligator.  Those might even be pyramids behind the chariot.)

 

WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID:

1) POSITIVE VIEW

 

GOOGLE NEWS

2) CRITICAL VIEW

 


CHIEF CRITICISMS:
 

1. "THE FORGER DOESN'T KNOW DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ALPHA AND LAMBA"

  • When Elkington issued his press release, one scholar remembered an exchange he’d had months ago. Peter Thonemann reported that he’d received an email from Elkington in September. Elkington claimed he was a biblical historian and was working on the metal codices. He claimed then that a Bedouin had said his father had found them in northern Egypt. In the current press release, he claimed Bedouin had found them in Jordan. He said he was having trouble finding the type of Greek used and was wondering if Thonemann could help.

    Thonemann then received photographs of a codex that looks just like the ones in the BBC photos. He replied that the text had been incised by someone who didn’t even know Greek since they didn’t distinguish between the letters lambda and alpha. The text had been lifted from an Aramaic/Greek inscription published in 1958 and republished in 1986. Here’s how he ends his response:
     

    • The text on your bronze tablet, therefore, makes no sense in its own right, but has been extracted unintelligently from another longer text (as if it were inscribed with the words: ‘t to be that is the question wheth’). The longer text from which it derives is a perfectly ordinary tombstone from Madaba in Jordan which happens to have been on display in the Amman museum for the past fifty years or so. The text on your bronze tablet is repeated, in part, in three different places, meaningless in each case.

      The only possible explanation is that the text on the bronze tablet was copied directly from the inscription in the museum at Amman by someone who did not understand the meaning of the text of the inscription, but was simply looking for a plausible-looking sequence of Greek letters to copy. He copied that sequence three times, in each case mixing up the letters alpha and lambda.

[This claim seems fantastic to me.  How could such a brilliant forger of foreign languages be so utterly ignorant?  Could it be that there is another explanation?]


2. THE TEXT IS A MEANINGLESS RIP OFF OF VARIOUS KNOWN INSCRIPTIONS AND FIGURES

3. THE CODICES WERE CAST, IMPLYING YOUNG AGE


4. SCRIPT INCONSISTENCIES

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gwaMOaxJLmM/TZvbDoEgkcI/AAAAAAAAAdc/fTVkkiOGOqY/s1600/Jordinian-Lead-Codicies-Script-Errors.png
http://aramaicdesigns.blogspot.com/2011/04/finally-good-look-at-lead-codices.html


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http://danielomcclellan.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/thoughts-on-the-jordan-lead-codices/

This contains the following portion of the other inscription: ΛΥΠΕΧΛΙΡΕΛΒΓ. The inscription Thonemann points to reads thus, with the words written in minuscule script and separated by spaces:

1 Σελαμαν χρηστὲ καὶ
2 ἄλυπε χαῖρε, Ἀβγαρ ὁ καὶ Εἰσίων
3 Μονοαθου υἱὸς υἱῷ τειμίῳ τὸ μνῆμα
4 ἐποίησεν ἔτους τρίτου ἐπαρχείας

1 For Selaman, excellent and
2 harmless man, farewell! Abgar, also known as Eision,
3 son of Monoathos, for his excellent son, this tomb,
4 he constructed, in the third year of the province

Now here is the same inscription with portions from the first and then second inscriptions above bracketed:

1 Σελαμαν χρηστὲ καὶ
2 [ἄλυπε χαῖρε, Ἀβγαρ ὁ καὶ Εἰσίων]
3 Μονοαθου υἱὸς υἱῷ τειμίῳ τὸ μνῆμα
4 ἐποίησεν ἔτους τρίτου ἐπαρχείας

1 Σελαμαν χρηστὲ καὶ
2 ἄ[λυπε χαῖρε, Ἀβγ]αρ ὁ καὶ Εἰσίων
3 Μονοαθου υἱὸς υἱῷ τειμίῳ τὸ μνῆμα
4 ἐποίησεν ἔτους τρίτου ἐπαρχείας

The bracketed portions make no sense out of the context of the rest of the inscription. It seems the person responsible for the copper plate copied the entire second line off the inscription and then used portions of it on other plates. This indicates the copper codices are modern forgeries."

 

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Date: 01 May 2011
Time: 08:01:23

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