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Date: 2 Feb 2008
Time: 11:36:02

Hi Todd

Been away for a while and I felt moved to see where you were at. Your recent essay on Matthew 16:27-28 and what it means strikes me as a deeper, truer understanding of what Jesus was promising (not merely prophesying, but promising... well spotted, Todd!)

If God is beyond time, then the Judgement comes for all of us at any point in this linear temporal sequence, yet is at the "same" Divine time of God's choosing. After all isn't the Judgement in some time/space where "the Earth and sky have fled from the presence of Him"? How can there be chronological time as we know it when the "Sun, Moon and stars" were for the keeping of time & times? There can be no time, no space as the Bible writers knew them without Earth and sky.

Date: 19 Jun 2009
Time: 23:46:07

Your Comments:

I will pray for you that God to open your mind and eyes to see the the right way.
Be carreful you are responsable for all your teachengs toward others.
Our Lord Jesus is going to come on clouds!
Be ready for the rapture!This isn't only a story!




Date: 28 Jan 2008 Time: 16:18:33 Comments:
Todd, Ten minutes ago I read your announcement of renouncing hyperpreterism, and it took my breath away. I had to force back tears. For several years, those people made my life miserable. I can't tell you how good it feels to see you take your principled and courageous stand. God bless you!!!!
Date: 28 Jan 2008 Time: 09:38:11 Comments:
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Date: 5 Feb 2008
Time: 03:11:26

Comments:

Todd Although you and I do not really know each other I believe that our interaction has been both positive and brotherly over the past few years. I have always maintained a great deal of respect for you and for your convictions even though I may not always agree with your conclusions about every subject.

You invested your heart and soul into gathering the resources that went into the founding and formation of "The Preterist Archive" as a place where students of the word could gather to discern the truth and to look at various aspects of preterism from an objective standpoint. I respect that goal and intent.

I wish you well and that God's blessings will follow you where ever your journey takes you. My personal thanks and admiration to you for all that you have done!

Even if you have moved past preterism you have devoted a considerable amount of time and energy researching the history of the doctrine and I just could not stand to see it all just disappear into cyberspace. You are doing a great job and I appreciate your work.

LS

Date: 5 Feb 2008
Time: 03:14:21

Comments:

Todd,

I meant to ask you but I forgot...what is going to happen with your domain name? Are you interested in selling it or perhaps donating it to planet preterist? It would be a shame for that domain to go totally dark in my opinion.

V

Date: 11 Feb 2008
Time: 12:12:13

Comments:

Pray all is well!!!
--
Living in the Joy of His Presence!

BK

Date: 12 Feb 2008
Time: 05:44:51

Comments:

I just came across your web site for the first time and spent an hour or so reading parts of it, mostly the part where you describe your personal journey of discovery. I admire your honest and enthusiastic pursuit of the truth. And I appreciate all of the work that has gone into your web sites. I could travel with you most of the way, but I have trouble taking the last step --- i.e. setting aside the second coming. How do you read 1 Corinthians 15 and seemingly related texts, such as 1 Th 4:17? I suppose your have already dealt with this someplace on your web site, but if you have time to comment I would appreciate it.

Greg Rose

Date: 13 Feb 2008
Time: 03:22:22

Comments:

Hi Todd

You have on your web site accused full Preterists of being guilty of the Hymenaeus heresy. Concerning this very serious charge - I must say several things

That I charge you before the throne of Christ Himself with doing the work of satan in falsely charging not only me but many other faithful men of God with a very serious crime against the faith without supporting such charges nor taking seriously the nature of your charge or your duties under such charges.

A heretic after the first and then second warning you must reject

Your warning must consist of proof of your charges not mere assertion and it is your duty to warn and to call to repentance those who hold to heresy lest their souls be lost forever.

You can not just set forth such 'accusations' without substance and in doing so you have become an accuser of the brethren a work of satan.

I demand you before the presence of God and all of the heavenly host to prove that we are indeed heretical and overthrowing the faith of saints. I further demand of you that you prove that we are in error in believing that no one was caught up to meet the Lord in the air that Paul promised such event to.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

Sorry Todd - I am not doing this for debate sake - in fact I would rather have no part of it. I wish I had never read you web site nor sent you any e-mail I hate this very much but I will warn you that if you ignore what I have just written God will indeed judge you for it.

I have seen it before - I do not like it - I hope you repent others did not - they paid for it for years and still are.

Sincerely in Christ - B

Date: 14 Feb 2008
Time: 06:36:18

Comments:

You state all forms of Preterism are wrong, which includes yours. So what does the Bible teach?

Does the Bible teach that Jesus' Second Coming happened in the 1st Century generation and everything that went with it? Yes or No

Is there �Absolute Truth� in the scriptures?

What makes you right and the others wrong?

Does the scriptures only have one meaning or many?

[Please feel free to post a verse which looks back at the second coming of Christ and declares fulfillment. TD]

Date: 15 Feb 2008
Time: 11:24:07

Comments:

How can a preterist charge Todd with doing the work of satan when Satan was destroyed nearly 2,000 years ago?

Folks so many of you are eager to spread preterism yet with comments like the one below you still wonder why it is constantly failing?

Ill tell you why.

No Love

John H

Date: 4 May 2008
Time: 05:22:12

Comments:

I have really enjoyed a lot of articles from your site, I am a sold out modern day Preterist. With a little bit more of a truth, I believe! That is I firmly renounce my hierarchical roots, the Senior pastor power trip.

I used to pastor for approximately 15 yrs and struggled in the system I was raised in as a Pentecostal/charismatic/word of faith believer.

Date: 9 May 2008
Time: 12:45:27

Comments:

I'd really like to know what, specifically, prompted you to reject Full Preterism. I've read your blog and examined your views and interpretive position on a number of key texts, but I don't rely, personally, on any of those texts in Matthew. I primarily refer to the synoptic passages in Luke, particularly chapters 19-21, when explaining the Scriptural basis for Full Preterism to those who ask.

Thanks for all you've done for God's Kingdom, the Truth and Preterism over the years, Todd.

[TD: Thanks for the comments. The move was exegetically based. It took me 10 years to climb the mountain of first century studies.. from which vantage point I could see that the history I was studying was only the outward historical show of eternal realities in Christ. After a little head scratching, it became obvious that Full Preterism is actually 180 degrees from the truth. It is no different from how close OT Judaism is to the truth. It is VERY close.. and yet, because of the carnal point of view which cannot see Jesus Christ's spiritual kingdom, it is completely wrong nontheless.]

Date: 9 May 2008
Time: 12:45:27

Comments:

Todd: In your zeal to hair-split preterism, I'm afraid you've lost sight of Apostolic Christianity. In Matthew 24:3, Apostles ask Jesus three specific questions which He answers quite clearly. Later. in Revelation 22, Christ stresses that if we humans choose not to truly enter His spiritual Kingdom then we will self-destruct and He will give us all the power we need to do so. It's really kinda simple.

Date: 11 May 2008
Time: 04:36:14

Comments:

Hi Todd

Regarding "Israel's History a Type - From Beginning to Very End", their entire history might follow the creation week, ending with a New Adam ruling in a new Eve garden-city.

I thought it was strange that the beasts from the Sea in Daniel are actually land animals that carried Israel across the Sea. This made me think that Israel�s history follows the Creation pattern:

Day 1 Light
Patriarchs - Abraham (Sabbath)
Light dawned upon the waters of the 70 nations.

Day 2 Waters Above & Below
Exodus - Moses (Passover)
Israel was separated (slain and resurrected) to mediate for the world.

Day 3 Dry Land, Grain & Fruit
Promised Land - Joshua (Firstfruits)
Israel �ascended� to the Land and sat by God�s throne as Judges

Day 4 Ruling Lights (mighty men)
Kings - David & Solomon (Pentecost)
The transfigured king failed. God�s throne was rejected.

Day 5 Birds & Fish
Captivity - Armies (Trumpets)
The �birds and fish� swarms were eagles (like Nebuchadnezzar) and sea monsters (Assyria and Babylon).

Day 6 Land Animals & the Man
Restoration - Joshua the high priest Atonement (covering)
The dominion of the four land beasts who covered Israel was given to the Son of Man. �Eve� was resurrected by crossing the sea (Firstfruits resurrection) and was brought to God.

Day 7 Rest & Ruling
Redemption - Jesus Booths (�Clouds�) (ingathering)
Adam rested at the right hand of the Father as Transfigured King. He received His transfigured Eve-people at the first resurrection, and the marriage supper followed. Like Israel's Temple, Greater Solomon's will remain for '1000 years.'

I loved your paraphrase of Matt 26:64.

Kind regards,
Mike

Date: 12 May 2008
Time: 10:30:22

Comments:

Regarding Full Preterism and its Scriptural validity, I have a hard time assigning the events of AD 70 to no more than a footnote in history - one of many "shadows" pointing vertically to Jesus Christ. I honestly believe it was far more significant than that. One good example might be Heb. 9:15-28, where we find that the "redemption" was accomplished only on behalf of those governed by the "first covenant" (Mosaic Law Covenant - v.15). In v.28 we find that "those who eagerly wait for him" would experience His return to them. This "return" would include the elimination/annihilation of the Old Mosaic Covenant "world" and system thereby revealing the New Covenant of Grace in Christ Jesus as God's eternal, ultimate, perfect fulfillment of His Word and Will. I have pointed out to many futurists, that on the basis of Heb. 9:28, what they believe is actually blasphemy. To believe that God made this promise to First Century Hebrews enduring the Jewish persecution - as savage and devastating as it was - and then didn't follow through on His promise? Blasphemy against the God of Israel and the Bible. Plain and simple.

I see much more than simple "shadows" and metaphorical significance in the events of AD 70, Todd. I really do. Christians today have absolutely no clue how significant AD 70 really was in relation to the establishment of the Kingdom of Heaven, etc. For post-AD 70 Christians, its significance is on par with Christ's death and resurrection, as far as I'm concerned.

In Gal. 4:21-31 we find that a "casting out" (or "divorce") occurred where Old Covenant Israel was concerned. AD 70 was clearly the date of this event, and thus God's New Covenant People gained the sole inheritance as His true Israel.

[TD: Thanks for the comments. There are many problems with this approach. It would take a book to point them all out, so let me deal with it on a more fundamental hermeneutical level. The Mosaic Law was only ever a shadow. It could not save anyone. All it could do was point to the One who does save. Those who rested on the schoolmaster as the actual substance found themselves cast out.. which is the same result for all those who - before and after the Mosaic revelation - rejected the One. AD70 is a revelation of that. Compare Matthew 24:2 with Matthew 21:44 to get a better sense of what I'm trying to say.]

Date: 12 May 2008
Time: 10:30:22

Comments:

Imminency is not "forever within grasp", but, rather, "near in time" relative to the ones it was spoken to. Tommy Ice makes a bizzarre case for the "forever within grasp" meaning, saying that N.T. imminency statements were similar to the Buffalo Bills having the Super Bowl within grasp for a number of years but never fully realizing it. So the beat goes on... I contend that that is a FALSE definition of imminency. It makes no matter if the "foreverr within grasp" meaning can be found as "one of" several meanings in a concordance. How was imminency used in the New Testament? - that is the point. I think you know that N.T. imminency meant "near in time", not "forever within grasp", and that this can be PROVED.

[TD: Thanks for the comments. What I am saying is different from Tommy Ice, who employs a timeline just as much as the preterists. The kingdom being "at hand" is not a chronological statement. When Jesus told the scribe: "Thou art not far from the Kingdom of God." (Mark xii. 34.) he was not telling him that he would live until AD70. He was saying that it was within his reach. His understanding had brought him within striking distance of accepting Jesus Christ as his Messiah. ]

Date: 18 May 2008
Time: 16:30:39

Comments:

I have a friend who is a full preterist and has been for maybe 10 years. I have been trying to talk with him on the matter, which led to him leaving his fellowship (they wanted him to stop teaching on it and because he didn't were about to discipline him but he "left") and I believe he is really suffering in his personal life and is now cut off from other Christians because of this teaching. It seems to color his whole worldview of spiritual things and keep him from feeling in agreement with other believers. He seems to love Jesus and be very sincere and devoted to the study of Scripture and prayer...it is very confusing how he could have so many godly qualities yet still tenaciously hold to this major doctrinal error. Since you have a heart for those who have been misled by Full Preterism, I would ask you to pray for this brother.

Date: 6 Jun 2008
Time: 08:08:32

Comments:

I am unfamiliar with Preterist beliefs but have a question. Could the "Abomination of Desolation" not be a statue on the Temple Mount but instead another structure set up to pray to another god?.....such as the Muslim mosque?

Date: 18 Jun 2008
Time: 10:57:34

Comments:

I am a Preterist, but I am not undecided on full or partial Preterism for the time being; but I still have a big complaint about the website. It claims to be, in big, bold letters "the internet's only balanced look at Preterist eschatology." Yet through every page that even remotely bears resemblence to full Preterism (and many that can be considered partial Preterism as well), you have a giant disclaimer saying full Preterism is "dangerous." You made the root folder titled "Hyper." Indeed, on the main page for full Preterism, you went out of your way to provide a lengthy list of ex-full Preterists.

Just because you provide full Preterist material doesn't mean you're being balanced. The fact that you have both Preterist commentary and Futurist commentary available is balanced, because you provide it willingly and openly so people can see the critiques of Preterism... but slapping a big "warning" label on full Preterism and going out of your way to show why people shouldn't be convinced of it on each and every full Preterist page simply isn't "balanced." It's biased. I think there's either two solutions that can be done. First, you could remove the tagline "the internet's only balanced look," because the very fact that you're loading every full Preterist page with anti-full Preterist warnings isn't balanced; i.e., the tagline is a lie, or misleading at best. Second, you could remove the warning labels on every page and let people decide for themselves whether it's "dangerous." You could even keep the list of ex-full Preterists, but move that to its own page rather than placing it front and center on the full Preterist main page.

In short: my biggest complaint is that you claim to be "balanced" (which most people will read as synonymous with "unbiased"), but you're being incredibly unbalanced (and thus biased) in your presentation of full Preterism.

But I do want to at least thank you for the massive website you run. It must be difficult to maintain, but you're doing a pretty good job so far.

[TD: I'm pleased to still be hosting all the full preterist articles at the archive, and appreciate it when people study them ; however, as a matter of conscience I have put a warning label on the tops of those pages. And it is indicative of a balanced approach to present full preterist materials, despite those warning labels. What difference does the warning make regarding the presentation of all views? I never said that I was unbiased since leaving full preterism, anyway. I've always been biased. When I was a full preterist, the site was hugely biased towards that view, as any non-pret who utilized the site for studies can attest. ]

Date: 16 Jun 2011
Time: 12:42:08

Your Comments:

In 1st Corinthians 5:7 we find this statement; "For indeed Christ, our Passover, was sacrificed for us." A type or shadow is something which points to something to come and the passover lamb as well as other animals offered in sacrifice pointed to Christ and the sacrifice He made by laying down His life for us.
Hebrews 9:12 says; "Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption." The great "Atonement" for sin allows us to come into a relationship with God. Not only that, but life after death, what�s sometimes referred to as �the high calling� or �upward call�. "Therefore, brethren, having boldness to enter the Holiest by the blood of Jesus." - Hebrews 10:19
The Holiest in the tabernacle representing heaven. Our relationship and blessing from that is what was promised in old testament times, and is the new covenant and the salvation it would bring. This wouldn't be posible without something called "justification" (being made right with God).
At the time the new testament was being written, the law covenant was still in effect but was in the process of passing away. The complete end came with the destruction of the temple in 70AD when the whole sacrificial system and Levitical priesthood passed away. Christ is now the "Heavenly High Priest".
There's also the thought of "renewal" and making all things new. "Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; old things have passed away; behold all things have become new." - 2nd Corinthians 5:17 What an important and wonderful commission the church has of bringing the Gospel (good news) to the rest of the world. "He has delivered us into the Kingdom of the Son of His love." - Colossians 1:13 NKJV --Michael Burke

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